Lets discuss off road recovery gear

[Romer]

Better pictures of my gear setup. The winch extension fits nicely on top of the ARB Snatch Strap


ARB Snatch Strap (Orange) and ASR Tree Saver (Red). The air hose and Inflater fit on top nicely. Shovel and axe to left of straps(can't see)


Maxx Tracks and Off Road Jack on back

 

[BritKLR]

Paul,
I wasn't complaining. I can zip it with the extension inside. It just fits better out of the bag next to my recovery strap in my storage drawer. I wasn't really planning on having the winch extension in the bag since it is large.

The bag is perfect. I was just calrifying the picture and showing all the toys I got yesterday

It is very well made and very happy with the purchase

Hey Ken,

I didn't take it that way, I just wanted you to be satisfied with your gear.

Please lmk if you have any questions, comments or suggests!

I appreciate it.

 

[Romer]

Hey Ken,

I didn't take it that way, I just wanted you to be satisfied with your gear.

Please lmk if you have any questions, comments or suggests!

I appreciate it.

Curious what you have in those small side pockets in the picture

 

[Inukshuk]

Can we play: Guess What's In Paul's Pockets"? LOL

Hitch pin right? Unmentionable on right? LOL (or a Safe-Xtract Winch Line Lock, which may be NLA?)

 

[Romer]

Can we play: Guess What's In Paul's Pockets"? LOL

Hitch pin right? Unmentionable on right? LOL (or a Safe-Xtract Winch Line Lock, which may be NLA?)

I thought it might be a pin, but looked a little different than what I aam use to

looks like you are correct on item 2

https://www.asroffroad.com/aluminum-winch-line-lock-20-000-lb-mts/

Only thing I found was this photo

In what situation would you use that vs the X Lock?

 

[Inukshuk]

In what situation would you use that vs the X Lock?

If I have an x-lock and there is nothing in the rigging that would prevent its use, I'd use the x-lock.
Daisy chain shortening is s time-proven technique. Bill Burke is famous for doing it with a rolled up magazine, specifically Overland Journal. IYKYK
The earlier nylon lock was actually stressed till failure in testing. Hence the aluminum model.
It's another tool. Another skill and option.

 

[BritKLR]

Can we play: Guess What's In Paul's Pockets"? LOL

Hitch pin right? Unmentionable on right? LOL (or a Safe-Xtract Winch Line Lock, which may be NLA?)

LOL....That is correct!

The funny part is I remember learning (via DVD) how to use a rolled up magazine as a line lock by BB 20+ years ago! But, the new style is much better!

 

[Corbet]

Sheave size (the wheel) is an important factor. I grabbed a nice 30,000 lb Master Pull for $50 at KOH only to later discover the sheave will only work with 3/8 wire. Synthetic needs a groove at least as deep as the entire diameter. Wire is ok with a radius deep groove.

Daniel, can you expand a little on this. Masterpull says not to use wire rope but only synthetic rope with their snatch blocks. So are you saying they have a design flaw with their product or did you pick up an older/outdated version?

 

[Inukshuk]

Daniel, can you expand a little on this. Masterpull says not to use wire rope but only synthetic rope with their snatch blocks. So are you saying they have a design flaw with their product or did you pick up an older/outdated version?

Masterpull makes a ton of products. This happens to be a pulley block for wire rope.

 

[Corbet]

Masterpull makes a ton of products. This happens to be a pulley block for wire rope.

So the one you bought was not the same as this? https://www.masterpull.com/snatch-block-sbo30000-12/

Just want to confirm as I do plan to buy the Masterpull unit when I feel flush with new recovery gear funds. I did not know the diameter/radius thing with respect to wire verse synthetic. My existing snatch block is technically not the correct spec for my 3/8” synthetic rope. Obviously it’s worked without failure to date but more motivated to replace it now.

 

[Inukshuk]

Sheave size (the wheel) is an important factor. I grabbed a nice 30,000 lb Master Pull MileMarker for $50 at KOH only to later discover the sheave will only work with 3/8 wire. Synthetic needs a groove at least as deep as the entire diameter. Wire is ok with a radius deep groove.

1) Turns out mine is MileMarker. Also a decent company. I'll edit my post.
2) Mine is the PN 60-50083, WLL 7.5k lbs, 30K Minimum Breaking Strenght (typo in original) (Some other websites use that same part number advertised as a 20k lb pulley block)

 

[Corbet]

I currently have an opportunity to upgrade to slightly used 2-1/2” synthetic. Just need someone to distract the captian.

 

[60wag]

So would you put 5ft on the drum, or fill it full with 10ft?

 

[Corbet]

I always fill the drum.

 

[nakman]

hey what do you call the metal end that goes over a synthetic winch line? It's like a 2ga wire terminal... the thing that bolts to a winch drum.

I have a hunk of new line, I have some thimbles, have the pokey thing... I just need to connect this to a winch drum. But what's that thing I need called, and where to get one?

 

[nakman]

My winch looks like this:




It's looking like I just need to make a tiny loop in one end? With no metal part... not sure how I'm over thinking this. Here's another example:



both from https://www.masterpull.com/how-to-install-a-synthetic-winch-line/

so is it as simple as making a little loop using the pokey thing? this is the one I have:

Fast Fid

The Fast Fid is a rope splicing tool designed for rapid repairing or splicing of synthetic winch lines. No tape or other tools required. Trail repair takes only Minutes.

www.factor55.com

 

[Corbet]

I used one of these*

The Grabber

A safe and simpler way to attach a synthetic winch line to your winch drum. Fits all brands of winches.

www.bubbarope.com

*EDIT, but would not again based on discuss to follow.

 

[nakman]

I used one of these.

The Grabber

A safe and simpler way to attach a synthetic winch line to your winch drum. Fits all brands of winches.

www.bubbarope.com

Well dang I guess that would work, thanks! come to think of it, I don't have any of that sleeve stuff either, guess I need that for the first wrap.

 

[jps8460]

Well dang I guess that would work, thanks! come to think of it, I don't have any of that sleeve stuff either, guess I need that for the first wrap.

Running a length of rope along the drum, duct taping it, and spooling over the top is a long time tried and true method that is free and doesn’t have a metal screw head that chafes the rope in the same spot every time you spool in.

The safe extract method is good to unless you have a warn with sheathing, it gets super bulky. It’s kind of bulky with just line and no sheathing.

Sheathing is really only recommended on internal drum brake winches. It doesn’t hurt to have it on other winches, it’s just unnecessary

 

[Romer]

This is what I have at the end of my rope. Several companies make them

Service Part - Winch Cable Terminal - 16463

Replacement winch cable terminal for M6000, M8000, XD9, XD9i, 9.5XP, 9.5 XP H2, 9.5cti, 9.5ti and 9.5ti Multimount, VR8, Tabor 8, Tabor 9k, Magnum 8000, and Powerplant HP and HD.

www.warn.com