2024 Tacoma - What do you think?

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All the engines I've seen, gas and diesel, forced induction and NA, have larger intake valves. I assumed it improves the efficiency of the engine. I do find it amazing that the error shown in the picture above can result in a valve that comes close to sealing the cylinder. It is definitely sitting deeper in the head and the cam and lifter just deal with it. Is it a hydraulic lifter?
 

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I ordered the rear ARB Bumper. You can only get it through Toyota. Interesting that Stevinson wasnt able to get it, but Groove looked it tp found 2 in the depot and said I will have it by the weekend. I will install it myself
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I have the front ARB on pre-order with Slee. Expecting April
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My hesitation to install this myself is the triming on the existing bumper and fender flare. leaning towards having Slee do it

Also looking at these springs. Ones I can swap with my existing springs. Maybe these or something equivelant. Looking to offset the droop and maybe 1" of lift to keep it wife freindly. May put a spacer in back for 1" vs the two described.

The front spring/strut looks like it needs a stand and also a bigger torque wrench then I have. Wondering if I should have Slee do the front

https://www.alldogsoffroad.com/alld...Hi0KzEAJplKodp69w13LG9VvNLT404IxoCV3MQAvD_BwE

Any thoughts on these?
 

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That rear bumper looks really good!
 

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I just added the Alldogs springs

I did not want to spend thousands of dollars on a new lift. I liked these because they allowed me to lift my truck without changing control arms or shocks.

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Before and After alignment and lift deltas

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Your photos are not working for me? I've been looking at those springs as well for the 250. I don't really want a lift just stiffer springs. If I gained an inch that would be fine but I also do not want the really change the suspension geometry much and fall down the control arm hole.
 

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Your photos are not working for me? I've been looking at those springs as well for the 250. I don't really want a lift just stiffer springs. If I gained an inch that would be fine but I also do not want the really change the suspension geometry much and fall down the control arm hole.
I had to edit the post. Should work now
 

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Let’s talk Front Bumpers

I noticed there are very few full width bumpers like a bull bar even without the bar for the Tacoma.

I had an ARB Front Bumper on pre-order, but may cancel.

There are lots of front bumpers that only replace the middle section.

I did not see a lot of value in these so I asked R4T what is the advantage of these. Primarily recovery points and housing a winch along with some front end protection

I am use to the full width bumpers that provide better clearance and protection. They have provided clearance to me on my Land Cruisers to come at an incline at an angle and walk one tire up and then the 2nd would catch.

They also have provided great front end protection. My daughter was at a red light in my 80 series and two cars hit each other in the intersection and smacked into my 80 on the corner. My 80 had no damage and only a paint scratch on the bumper. The cars has dents all the way down where they smacked against the bumper.
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Also from wheeling, most of the dings have been in the corner. The skid plates provide protection for rocks hitting the underside.

I looked at the instructions to install the Tundra Zenith front bumper and they are very complicated. Lots of parts and pieces. It is likely a two day shop install which would be over $2K (my guess). One shop told me the first Tundra took them 4 days, but they expected follow on’s to be half of that

Sensors get moved and not sure if that requires recalibration. Moved sensors require harness extensions from the vender. Two dealers wanted $600 to recalibrate the rear parking sensors on my Rear ARB. I replaced them with the stock ones and everything works fine, but they are in similar spots. The front would move them farther out and there are more sensors so not as likely to work without recal, but maybe they will be just fine

This makes me think twice on getting a front full width bumper. I don’t plan on a winch right now, so I see no need to do the partial front. I just lifted my Tacoma and have 33” tires so maybe I should drive/wheel it and see how it goes. My 200 series Land Cruiser is still my primary wheeling vehicle so I would use that for the harder stuff. Still, I do like the on road protection of a full width bumper.

Throwing this out there for discussion. Maybe my thought process is flawed, maybe some front bumpers are much more simple than the ARB Zenith. Maybe there are benefits to the partial width/height front bumpers that seem prevalent ion the market
 

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My 3rd Gen Taco came with one of those center bumpers. It's fine for a winch which I do have installed and I have used to extract myself from a snow drift. But it doesn't have good clearance and doesn't protect the corners. I want to replace it at some point. The only bummer will be losing the OEM fog lights (the ones on my truck are surprisingly good).

The center bumper style I think is mildly more aerodynamic than a full width bumper so in addition to the extra weight cutting fuel mileage, the aero drag will eat a little bit of mileage.

For your truck, the sensor relocation and recalibration will be a PITA. You'll want to figure that out in advance so you don't end up with a bunch of Christmas tree lights on your dash while you're trying to get it sorted.
 

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Speaking with techs the sensors are supposed to be recalibrated if any relocation or impact occurs. I’ve got an independent shop client who just invested into all the equipment to do so. He is the only non-dealer in Durango currently capable of doing full calibrations. Will the systems still work, well maybe? It’s a pretty complicated system and I’m sure there are different levels of “working”. Front bumpers have changed a lot since we all bolted them up to the frame horns of our 80’s. Now you have to deal with airbags and sensors of all kinds. Installation costs might exceed the bumper. Someone once told me the rear ARB for the 200 has over 150 fasteners included for installation.

Ken, my 250 is argumentally sitting in the same daily driver mild wheeler status as your Tacoma. We both have other trucks as our dedicated wheelers. Personally I like the idea of the center bumper. Gives me a place to mount a winch, 20” lightbar and some more accessible recovery points. I don’t want to add the weight of a full bar or dirty the air reducing fuel economy. To that end the center mini bumper is a winner. If my wheeling itinerary is more demanding I’ll take the 80.

I don’t want to add any more weight to my truck unless I address the spring rates. Between my sliders, RTT, and standard rear cargo I’ve already reduced my ride quality. In a perfect world I buy Slee’s ADS struts/shocks and run the front ride height as low as possible then find some firmer rear springs that offer more capacity with minimal lift. I’ve acquired some LX600 take offs that might be the ticket. But it will be a while before I can swing the ADS hardware.

I’ve been asking questions on MUD regarding these AllDogs springs. The vendor has not had much to share. So thank you for the detailed ride height info above. Do they feel “firmer” on the road? Was here a noticeable increase in the spring diameter? What bothers me is that they are marketing these springs for LC/GX/Tacoma and assuming 4R without much info on ride height. The front ends of these trucks are probably very close in weight I have to believe the back halves vary to much for a one spring does all equally solution.
 

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I’ve been asking questions on MUD regarding these AllDogs springs. The vendor has not had much to share. So thank you for the detailed ride height info above. Do they feel “firmer” on the road? Was here a noticeable increase in the spring diameter? What bothers me is that they are marketing these springs for LC/GX/Tacoma and assuming 4R without much info on ride height. The front ends of these trucks are probably very close in weight I have to believe the back halves vary to much for a one spring does all equally solution.
I haven't looked at the spring diameter. I did bring home the stock springs, not sure why :) Check out this video at 1:39 to see the stock Tacoma vs All Dog Springs next to each other for the front


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7kMJjc6WU


Firmer feel, not sure how to answer that. It's a 25 mile highway drive from my house to R4T in north Denver. Rush hour stop and go on the way there, fairly wide open on way home. I think the stock springs almost felt like they were bottoming out on rough bumpy roads. I didn't drive the bumpy roads yet, but others have said that improved. I will need to drive it more to be able to answer your question. I thought it road better on the way home, but that could also be driving 65-70 vs 20 on the same road :)
 

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My company '24 taco doesn't have any sensors and I didn't realize how much I used them on my '17 until they were gone.
 

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My company '24 taco doesn't have any sensors and I didn't realize how much I used them on my '17 until they were gone.
Sensors are like seat heaters. You don't need them until you have them and then you need them :) Felt the same way about steering wheel heaters, now a must have on a new vehicle.

I like the sensors in the Taco and the 360 deg camper. In my 200, I know where the corners of the front are (maybe because of the Bull Bar) so it is easier to park, The sensors and cameras help with that.
 

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@Romer and anyone else with a whatever generation the 2024 taco is. I have questions and would like to pick your brain (s). I have had this truck for 2 weeks and there are a few items that I have issues with and Google doesn't have the answers.
1. how do I turn off the passenger seat alarm? I had a cooler with ice and it triggered it as if it was a passenger! Drove me insane for too long!
B. Can I turn off the 3rd brake light? I have a truck cap and it lights up everything when I (or the truck) tap the brakes?
3. How do I turn off the auto breaking system? It hits the brakes while going around exit ramps and when cars are turning in front of me. Nice safety feature but a bit too sensitive for my taste.
 

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@Romer and anyone else with a whatever generation the 2024 taco is. I have questions and would like to pick your brain (s). I have had this truck for 2 weeks and there are a few items that I have issues with and Google doesn't have the answers.
1. how do I turn off the passenger seat alarm? I had a cooler with ice and it triggered it as if it was a passenger! Drove me insane for too long!
B. Can I turn off the 3rd brake light? I have a truck cap and it lights up everything when I (or the truck) tap the brakes?
3. How do I turn off the auto breaking system? It hits the brakes while going around exit ramps and when cars are turning in front of me. Nice safety feature but a bit too sensitive for my taste.
There are tools you can get to connect to the OBD port to modify a lot of settings. I used that to disable the seatbelt chime among other functions. I have one of those tools if you are ever in South Denver

Carista has a subscription, but you can cancel before 30 days are up at no cost. It was a nice tool but once everything is set, not really a reason to get it

I also have https://risingsun4x4club.org/xf/thr...portable-inexpensive-setup.37038/#post-449458 which does not require a susbscrition and works on all our Toyotas. I verified it has many of the same options to adjust. See pictures below

Not sure about 3rd brake light, never looked at that

I believe there are ways to adjust the sensitivity of the Brake assist system. Mine isnt as sensitive as yours so I have not looked at it. This is in the owners manual. Have you tried adjusting the radar sensitivity button on the steering wheel for Cruise control?

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Screens from tool I mentioned above
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Tried the radar distance on the wheel but from what I can tell, it is only active when the cruise is on. Whoever had the truck before me took the manual out of the truck, so thank you for those snips of it! I will play with it when I have some time off. Thanks Ken!
 

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You can download the manual at the Toyota owners site. You need to create an account and enter the VIN as an owner

 

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I'll give that a shot, but it is corporate owned and may not take.
 

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My preordered ARB Zenith made it to the states, but hasn't shipped. I got a set of the install instructions, its very complicated. Found out the bumper+ install+taxes would be over $5K. This included recalibration

I asked them to cancel the bumper since it hasnt shipped yet.

I don't plan on getting a winch and the 200 would wheel the hard trails. I like the bumper but don't LOVE the bumper. $5K would be OK if I thought that was the coolest thing. You know when you look back at your vehicle and go "that's cool" I know I wouldnt feel that way about that bumper. Kind of like I got the ARB Rear bumper for my 200 because it was the only thing available and swapped it for the Slee rear when it finally came out. The Slee bumper is cool and much better built

So taking a step back and flipping 180 degrees. Just considering.
No winch, no cutting getting some (not a lot) protection and better front recovery points there is this option. Doesnt touch the sensors and easy to install in a few hours. Not the full width protection I wanted, but with the work required for the sensors, this may be a good trade. Looks expensive, but it includes the front recovery hooks so just a little expensive :) The benefit is protection like an enhanced skid plate and much better recovery hooks for the front.


This makes it easy to add a different bumper later if I see one I love and I should be able to easily sell this one. I am just considering haven't decided on that. Just taking a step back and rethinking.
 
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