No sure about that. Even with the additional vehicle mentioned the comments remain consistent. Everything will cost too much because there is too much crap in them and not simple 4x4’s. Nor does anyone like how big they are.In true form this thread has been derailed, but I for one am also curious about this Lexus..
What does lexus have up their sleeve?
Speaking of ego mobilesMy opinion, the 90's into the 2000's was the last era of great vehicles oriented to off-pavement driving. Before American's highjacked "overlanding" and brought over accessorized ego-mobiles to parking lots everywhere. Toyota is guilty of following the trends of bulk, childish appearance, and unnecessary gimmicks while disregarding their proven platforms that serve unmatched function and performance. I love Toyota of the past but don't think much of any of their new platforms for the U.S. market. They'll tell you this will go on trails everywhere and even show pictures of it on the rocks but one way or the other you're gonna spend another $20k in repairs or modifications. I'll be available to make the absolutely necessary modifications to make this trail worthy at my shop.
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My opinion, the 90's into the 2000's was the last era of great vehicles oriented to off-pavement driving. Before American's highjacked "overlanding" and brought over accessorized ego-mobiles to parking lots everywhere. Toyota is guilty of following the trends of bulk, childish appearance, and unnecessary gimmicks while disregarding their proven platforms that serve unmatched function and performance. I love Toyota of the past but don't think much of any of their new platforms for the U.S. market. They'll tell you this will go on trails everywhere and even show pictures of it on the rocks but one way or the other you're gonna spend another $20k in repairs or modifications. I'll be available to make the absolutely necessary modifications to make this trail worthy at my shop.
I stand by my comments and robust drivetrains and lockers were available in the 90s.I hear this refrain frequently on forums, but I think the golden era of off road capable vehicles is actually right now. Other than Toyota and a few low volume vehicles like the Montero and the G Wagon, virtually no vehicles were available stock with a locking differential let alone front and rear selectable lockers. Most vehicles back then that were considered "great" for wheeling needed LOTS of upgrades to make them capable and reliable off road. The XJ Cherokee for example came with 28" tires on the high end, no locking differentials, fairly weak axles that were undergeared for larger tires, a transfer case that needed major modification to handle more than about 2" of lift, etc., so if you wanted to turn that into a robust platform that meant a lot of work and a lot of money. Your signature shows the vehicles in your fleet have quite a bit of modifications and are certainly far more capable than when they were stock, but that took a lot of time and money to get there.
Many OEMs today offer locking differentials, extremely effective traction control on and off road, 33-35" tires, skid plates, off road ready bumpers, disconnecting sway bars, and tons of accessories on top of modern drivetrains that have more power, better fuel economy (not by much though if we're being honest), far superior crash safety, better technology (whoever thought in the 90s today we'd have something like Gaia and OnX built into a nice huge color screen via Carplay on the dash?), more comfort, and a warranty to cover the vehicle. Styling however is subjective, and that is one area where I agree OEMs have gone a little far. I drove a new Tundra recently and didn't love the words TOYOTA across the dash on the passenger side and some of the styling elements overall including the camo pattern in the seats. My favorite look for a modern off road vehicle is our completely bone stock, no tint, Highlander lookalike 2008 Land Cruiser because 99% of people don't even know what it is and think it's boring. Regardless, it's easy to buy a brand new vehicle today from Toyota, Jeep, Ford, GM, Land Rover, Rivian, and others that blow the overall performance of yesteryear vehicles out of the water - without the need to modify much if anything.
I stand by my comments and robust drivetrains and lockers were available in the 90s.
And there's no valid point to what I've done to my personal vehicles to enhance their capability to suit my needs.
They'll tell you this will go on trails everywhere and even show pictures of it on the rocks but one way or the other you're gonna spend another $20k in repairs or modifications.