1973 FJ40 build
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OK, could really use some help this weekend just getting the engine out. I will work on getting everything unhooked and the engine attached to the cherry picker, but could use some muscle getting it out of the pig. Anytime you could help for an hour or so would be awesome. Pizza and beer of course. Thanks.
Timm
Timm
RicardoJM
Hard Core 4+
I'm up for getting the engine and transmission out. TheBoomBoom has to work Saturday afternoon. Which day and what time are you thinking you need the muscle?
Any time....Saturday morning works, but let me know when you are working on your shackles, I will come over to help. Can't leave Saturday afternoon but can work in the garage while Ty sleeps. Got all the lighting and 'new' heater installed in the garage last night. I had to turn the darn thing down, I was sweating out there when it was 20 outside!
T
T
RicardoJM
Hard Core 4+
Wow, the engine is out
. That turned out to be a bit longer than an hour. I'm glad we got the engine out. Thanks for the dinner and letting me and Rick hang out to give you a hand. Now it should be a straightforward deal to put the engine in.
. That turned out to be a bit longer than an hour. I'm glad we got the engine out. Thanks for the dinner and letting me and Rick hang out to give you a hand. Now it should be a straightforward deal to put the engine in.
Thanks for all your help and hard work! Without you and Rick I would still be out there yanking on stuff and throwing tools. 
Now to get the garage cleaned up, and loosen the shackle bolts so I can get the axles off. Oh and put in a new header in the kitchen and move some electrical wiring. Who said weekends were boring?
Thanks again Ricardo.
T
Now to get the garage cleaned up, and loosen the shackle bolts so I can get the axles off. Oh and put in a new header in the kitchen and move some electrical wiring. Who said weekends were boring? Thanks again Ricardo.
T
OK...time for an update. Thanks for consolidating my numerous build threads.
If you followed my other threads, this is just a recap.
Let's see where I left off...ok, I had the 2f, 4 speed and split tcase from the FJ60. Moved the engine inside to replace the rear main seal and the clutch. 24 hours after moving the engine inside the garage to work on it, the tranny and tcase were stolen from the alley next to my garage. Then I could not get the flywheel to budge and spent a couple of days squirting PB Blaster and ATF in the spark plug holes. Thankfully I was just being too nice and with some help from Zepp and Ricardo I got the rear main seal replaced. I also got the correct bellhousing from Root. Then I started looking online for a new tcase, and saw a $400 FJ55 advertised down in Walsenburg. After a little negotiating, I was heading down there with Ige and Ricardo to pick it up. After a LOOONG day (where we also discovered NO tcase) we got it back to my garage where I spent a week pulling parts. Then spent a whole day with Ricardo and Rick getting the engine and tranny out. Ige then picked up the carcass for the scrapyard. In the process discovered the rear axle on the 55 had a locker! Score!! I still did not have a tcase, but after a little trading with Max, I have a 3 speed tcase. Tonight I was able to get the clutch and flywheel and bellhousing off. This 2f has a flywheel MUCH easier to move! I have a rear main seal on the way and a clutch kit on order.
Here is my plan for this beast...first things first, I want to get her running ASAP. As soon as I replace the rear main seal and clutch I will work on getting the engine, tranny and tcase in the truck. While I am waiting for the clutch I will finish cleaning up and painting the engine bay. Once the engine is in place, and running, it will need a few things to get on the road...battery, gas tank, driveshafts fitted, adjust brakes, run new lines to the 4 speed clutch, new exhaust, some other minor things. The next step after getting her on the road is to get the 55 axles under her. I want to spend a little time cleaning them up and POR 15 them both. Once I get them on and find a proportioning valve for the disc brakes and all the brakes re-done, I will have a disc brake front and a locked rear. Beefy axles from the 55 and maybe the leafs will go on with the axles as well. Hopefully at least the lift from a certain someone's axle package. Then some new 33's, and I might be ready for Moab and/or Rubithon. 
I am sure there are 100 things I am still forgetting, but this is the plan for now. Oh, and some sliders from SROR. 
Major thanks to everyone who has helped out, either wrenching or picking up trucks or advice or anything...especially Root, Ige, Ricardo (and Rick), Subzali, and Zepp!!!
All advice, scorn, laughter, encouragement, and skepticism is warmly welcomed. See you Southsiders tomorrow night and the rest of you next Wednesday.
Timm
If you followed my other threads, this is just a recap.
Let's see where I left off...ok, I had the 2f, 4 speed and split tcase from the FJ60. Moved the engine inside to replace the rear main seal and the clutch. 24 hours after moving the engine inside the garage to work on it, the tranny and tcase were stolen from the alley next to my garage. Then I could not get the flywheel to budge and spent a couple of days squirting PB Blaster and ATF in the spark plug holes. Thankfully I was just being too nice and with some help from Zepp and Ricardo I got the rear main seal replaced. I also got the correct bellhousing from Root. Then I started looking online for a new tcase, and saw a $400 FJ55 advertised down in Walsenburg. After a little negotiating, I was heading down there with Ige and Ricardo to pick it up. After a LOOONG day (where we also discovered NO tcase) we got it back to my garage where I spent a week pulling parts. Then spent a whole day with Ricardo and Rick getting the engine and tranny out. Ige then picked up the carcass for the scrapyard. In the process discovered the rear axle on the 55 had a locker! Score!! I still did not have a tcase, but after a little trading with Max, I have a 3 speed tcase. Tonight I was able to get the clutch and flywheel and bellhousing off. This 2f has a flywheel MUCH easier to move! I have a rear main seal on the way and a clutch kit on order.
Here is my plan for this beast...first things first, I want to get her running ASAP. As soon as I replace the rear main seal and clutch I will work on getting the engine, tranny and tcase in the truck. While I am waiting for the clutch I will finish cleaning up and painting the engine bay. Once the engine is in place, and running, it will need a few things to get on the road...battery, gas tank, driveshafts fitted, adjust brakes, run new lines to the 4 speed clutch, new exhaust, some other minor things.
The next step after getting her on the road is to get the 55 axles under her. I want to spend a little time cleaning them up and POR 15 them both. Once I get them on and find a proportioning valve for the disc brakes and all the brakes re-done, I will have a disc brake front and a locked rear. Beefy axles from the 55 and maybe the leafs will go on with the axles as well. Hopefully at least the lift from a certain someone's axle package. Then some new 33's, and I might be ready for Moab and/or Rubithon. I am sure there are 100 things I am still forgetting, but this is the plan for now. Oh, and some sliders from SROR. Major thanks to everyone who has helped out, either wrenching or picking up trucks or advice or anything...especially Root, Ige, Ricardo (and Rick), Subzali, and Zepp!!!All advice, scorn, laughter, encouragement, and skepticism is warmly welcomed. See you Southsiders tomorrow night and the rest of you next Wednesday.
Timm
Shark Bait
Rising Sun Member
Sounds good, Timm! You will need the conversion input gear for your 3-speed t-case to mate to the 4-speed tranny. Looks like TPI has an adapter kit. 
Sounds good, Timm! You will need the conversion input gear for your 3-speed t-case to mate to the 4-speed tranny. Looks like TPI has an adapter kit.
ARGH!!!!!
OK, I will put in the 3 speed and tcase originally from the 40 and find some time to work with Chris to put my other 3 speed gears in the 4 speed tcase??
Shark Bait
Rising Sun Member
It's OK. You can put the 3-speed t-case on the 4-speed tranny. I would do that and swap the case later. Just get the conversion kit from TPI. You'll be happier with the 4-speed tranny. My
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It's OK. You can put the 3-speed t-case on the 4-speed tranny. I would do that and swap the case later. Just get the conversion kit from TPI. You'll be happier with the 4-speed tranny. My
Adapter kit is $195!! 3 speed tranny and tcase are in the back of my 40 and free. Overhaul kit to put the 3 speed gears in the 4 speed case is ~$150?
Shark Bait
Rising Sun Member
You'll need the adapter kit no matter what for the 4-speed tranny to 3-speed t-case.
The bell housing is different for the 3-speed tranny and the 4-speed tranny. If it was me, I'd go with the 4-speed tranny and 3-speed t-case. Freshen them up and you're set.
Even if I just use the 3 speed tranny and 3 speed tcase??
Then if I put the 3 speed gears in the 4 speed tcase I would need BOTH the $195 kit PLUS the $150 overhaul kit??
Think I will just find a 4 speed tcase.
Of course then I lose the emergency brake....right?
Then if I put the 3 speed gears in the 4 speed tcase I would need BOTH the $195 kit PLUS the $150 overhaul kit??
Think I will just find a 4 speed tcase.
Of course then I lose the emergency brake....right?
Shark Bait
Rising Sun Member
No. Sorry, I was editing my post. The bell housings are different. I was under the impression the later flywheel & clutch went with the later transmission, and the older with the older. Someone else may know what the valid combinations might be.
Shark Bait
Rising Sun Member
You lose the e-brake with the "split" t-case. '79 (?) and later? '75-'78 t-case has the e-brake drum, as do the 3-speed t-cases.
Rzeppa
Rising Sun Member
Timm already has the "early" 4 speed bellhousing courtesy of Mike. If he wants to just bolt the 4 speed tranny to the 3 speed t-case he has most of the parts he needs, but probably not the transition gear and B210 bearing. I think Joe Calleja charged me around $70-90 or so for the gear. Bearing was something like $10-15 at NAPA? That might be the quickest way to get the rig driving. From memory, the transition to split case was late 1980, August or so?
OK...keeping with the quickest/cheapest build plan, I will look for a 4 speed tcase. If I can't find one in the next week or 2, I plan on going with the 3 speed tranny and tcase.
Hmm...that 55 in Cheyenne has a 4 speed................
Hmm...that 55 in Cheyenne has a 4 speed................
Shark Bait
Rising Sun Member
OK, now I find out the flywheel is different for each tranny? So I have two 2f engines that had 4 speeds mounted to them, so my 3 speed tranny has a different input shaft that will not fit the 2f/4speed flywheel. So I either need to find a 4 speed tcase, put my 3 speed gears in Hatfield's 4 speed case, or buy a new flywheel...
treerootCO
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That is completely independent from the flywheel. What you are referring to is the pilot bearing.