ahh, ok, that makes more sense, and I am replacing the pilot bearing with the clutch anyway. the input shaft teeth hit the clutch, not the flywheel...
1973 FJ40 build
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ahh, ok, that makes more sense, and I am replacing the pilot bearing with the clutch anyway. the input shaft teeth hit the clutch, not the flywheel...
Shark Bait
Rising Sun Member
Keep the 2F, bell housing, flywheel & clutch, 4-speed tranny all together. Get the conversion input gear to mate your 3-speed t-case to the 4-speed tranny and you are set.
Rzeppa
Rising Sun Member
The input shaft of both the 3 speed and 4 speed trannies are the same, and so is the pilot bearing (crank is the same from F to 2F). AFAIK, all 4 speed flywheels are the same, but must be used with 4 speed pressure plate and friction plate. The throw out bearing, bearing retainer, fork and fork pivot needs to match the pressure plate and flywheel you're using. You can use either 3 speed or 4 speed clutch parts on the 4 speed bellhousing from personal experience, my speculation is that you could probably use them on the 3 speed bellhousing too.
The output shaft of the 3 speed and 4 speed are different (ten versus 16 splines IIRC?).
Rzeppa
Rising Sun Member
In addition to the input gear, I also needed the Datsun B210 bearing for the input shaft, and had to fabricate some spacers. One spacer for the PTO gear on the inside, and another one for the space between the rear of the input shaft and where the washer/nut goes onto the rear of the tranny output shaft to snug against the bearing inside race. Neither the stock 3 speed spacer nor the stock 4 speed spacer would fit. Four of the five bolts for the 3 speed that hold the t-case to the tranny were not long enough to thread into the 4 speed tranny. The threads are recessed a half inch or so and I had to steal them off my 76 and then get new ones from Stevinson for it. Timm should have plenty of long-enough bolts from his two 4 speeds though.Keep the 2F, bell housing, flywheel & clutch, 4-speed tranny all together. Get the conversion input gear to mate your 3-speed t-case to the 4-speed tranny and you are set.
It's a date. Zepp, Subzali, and Ricardo (theboomboom??) will all be helping this Sunday to drop the 2f from Uglibus into my 40. Yay! Thanks SO much for the help guys. Anyone else who wants to drop by to watch, heckle, drink beer, eat pizza, call Ricardo a 'candy ass', or steal an F engine block from my alley, please feel free to come! PM me for directions in South Denver near DU. You can also take a look at the ultra rare 1968 Aerodynamic FJ40!!!
Thanks again to all for their help, parts, patience, advice, etc. I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate it.
T
Thanks SO much for the help guys. Anyone else who wants to drop by to watch, heckle, drink beer, eat pizza, call Ricardo a 'candy ass', or steal an F engine block from my alley, please feel free to come! PM me for directions in South Denver near DU. You can also take a look at the ultra rare 1968 Aerodynamic FJ40!!! Thanks again to all for their help, parts, patience, advice, etc. I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate it.
T
Shark Bait
Rising Sun Member
Timm,
If I wasn't going to be on a plane to Indianapolis I'd be there. Sounds like you've got some good help.
If I wasn't going to be on a plane to Indianapolis I'd be there. Sounds like you've got some good help.
theboomboom
Trail Ready
i'm down
Rzeppa
Rising Sun Member
Word. Reckon I'm gonna enjoy this! I'm gonna bring over some wheel cylinders too, maybe we can unfreeze a couple
O-A torch. I don't think Timm has one but it can work. Obviously, the o-rings will be shot after the torch treatment, but you were going to rebuild them anyway, right?
Going through my stuff and I thought I had decent rear motor mounts,
bolts, washers and cotter pins....and now I don't think I do. I know we broke one of the bolts from the 55 when we took it out. Anyone happen to have anything I could use tomorrow???? Thanks...
T
bolts, washers and cotter pins....and now I don't think I do. I know we broke one of the bolts from the 55 when we took it out. Anyone happen to have anything I could use tomorrow???? Thanks...
T
Rzeppa
Rising Sun Member
nuclearlemon
Hard Core 4+
uh...isn't it supposed to be IN the cruiser?
RicardoJM
Hard Core 4+
The engine is in. This one went in a whole lot smoother than it was coming out of the piggie. Echoing what Matt said, it was bunch of fun working with you guys yesterday afternoon. I'll see about getting some pictures posted up this evening. Now that the engine is in, Timm is one step closer to getting his FJ40 on the road.
MDH33
Hard Core 4+
Good work guys!
Nothing wrong with a 3 speed.
Nothing wrong with a 3 speed.
Good work guys!
Nothing wrong with a 3 speed.
Other than the gearing and possible 3-on-the-tree shifter.
Other than the gearing and possible 3-on-the-tree shifter.
The tranny and tcase were original to this 40.
THANKS THANKS THANKS!!! you guys ROCK!
:Cannot tell you how much I appreciate alllll the help! Ty had a great time riding his trike around the garage with the "big guys". He was sad when you all left.
Thanks a million, cannot wait to get the Baby Blue Beast out of the garage...T
Rezarf
Hard Core 4+
:Great job fellas, what a cool thing to see a 40 return to life!
Rzeppa
Rising Sun Member
uh...isn't it supposed to be IN the cruiser?
Heh. After we "landed" the big one, we put it in the cooler
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