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I have always bought Kyosan fuel pumps. They are an OEM supplier and are plug and play. Ebay usually has the best deal going on these.
 
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EBay is currently offering 11 fj40 fuel pumps. The new offbrand ones are just slightly less pricey than OEM manufacturer pumps from SOR (with sellers of unknown repute). Used is cheaper, but a total crap shoot.
 

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EBay is currently offering 11 fj40 fuel pumps. The new offbrand ones are just slightly less pricey than OEM manufacturer pumps from SOR (with sellers of unknown repute). Used is cheaper, but a total crap shoot.

Don't buy used. I'd absolutely buy from an OEM manufacturer. Go Kyosan.
 

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Also make sure you buy one that is right for your year. Other years have different inlets/outlets and will make more work for you during the install.
 
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That was the problem with the O'Reilly pump. I don't think the person picking the part at a specialty shop would be quite as clueless as someone who asks if I want a pair of steering dampers instead of just one...
 

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Nice.

FWIW the Toyota dealerships around here know about Rising Sun and offer discounts to members, which sometimes results in a much better deal $$-wise and of course parts reliability-wise. One good reason to join the club :thumb:

Have to come to an event and a meeting, and then pay dues :)
 
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Today was a big day. I called CDan and ordered a ton of parts, and called SOR for the rest of the parts. Half of the parts should be here in a few days, the other half will likely be sometime next week.

I tried calling the company that's handling Toyota's consumer literature, but they said they only have two manuals: the repair manual for a 72-74 LandCruiser, and the repair manual for a 73-74 LandCruiser... The person on the phone had no idea what they were, the differences between them, why there are two that are only slightly different, etc... They were both $70, and I didn't feel like experimenting in that amount. Pretty disappointing.

The rest of the day I spent trying to find a locksmith who actually knows locksmithing. It's apparently a lot like modern automotive shops... If their computer can tell them what to replace, they'll replace it; otherwise it can't be done and you need a new car. I spent all day trying to find a locksmith that sounded like they hadn't just graduated high school. I got lucky twice; once was a woman (the wife of said locksmith) who sounded to be in her mid-30s (husband was approximately the same age), the other was a guy that was probably in his mid-40s. The woman was wise enough to know that her husband didn't know how to do what I needed to be done and was at least honest about it. The other guy was way too far away, but told me how to make the tool and do it myself. He at least knew his trade. At least one guy flat out lied to me and said it just couldn't be done... I just hung up on that asshat. I tried to pick it the best I could, and managed to be able to get about half the tumblers at a go, but it's very cold and I ran out of patience and just drilled it out...
 

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what were you trying to pick?
 

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I had a locksmith come out and make a hand cut key for a motorcycle not too long ago. He had nothing to go on and figured it out.

He didn't bother picking the lock, he just cut a key slowly by hand feeling how it interacted with the tumblers.

Price went down considerable after I gave him some beers too. He also didn't even ask to see a title or anything.

I'll try to look up who he was. It was cool watching him work. Do you still need a locksmith?
 
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I was trying to bet someone to pick the ignition lock so I could turn it to ACC to remove the barrel so I could get the code to have a key ordered/made. I ultimately drilled it out and ordered a new barrel (with keys) from CDan. I will need a locksmith in a week or two to cut the door keys to code and rekey the gas door lock. I talked to the Ace Hardware in Arvada, and they can rekey the lock, but can't cut the key to code. I called McGuckins (i love McGuckins), and they recommended a good locksmith who has been in business since the early 70s... Just an hour or so too late... I'm about to call them and make sure everything is doable.

Meanwhile... I hope at least some of the parts are here in the next few days (some relatively warm weather in the forecast).
 

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yeah this guys cut a new key for the motorcycle ignition from scratch. with it locked. It was neat to watch. he didn't pick it first just fit the key to it.

bummer you had to drill it out, just tell yourself it was probably worn out anyways :)
 
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First piece of the parts order puzzle has arrived. Unfortunately, there's not much I can do with this half until the other half arrives save study the manuals. Definitely nice to have all of the printed manuals in front of me, definitely annoying that SOR felt the need to put cheap non-removable stickers on the covers of my brand new manuals AND have the nerve to charge such a premium...
 

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I had a locksmith come out and make a hand cut key for a motorcycle not too long ago. He had nothing to go on and figured it out.

He didn't bother picking the lock, he just cut a key slowly by hand feeling how it interacted with the tumblers.

Price went down considerable after I gave him some beers too. He also didn't even ask to see a title or anything.

I'll try to look up who he was. It was cool watching him work. Do you still need a locksmith?

We needed locks to be re-keyed for a house once. The locksmith was probably 80 years old. He had a suitcase full of little tumblers and bars. Plus, a handfull of small tools. Everything was done by hand. I was amazed watching him work and I followed him around like a little kid asking questions. There are just some professions and skill sets in this country that will soon be gone forever. Old school is awesome.
 
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My Toyota box came today! I was disappointed to find that the ignition barrel and the switch didn't fit together... I spent a good hour filing the tab down until it fit, then grabbed a coat and went down to install the bad boy! Turns out, there's an intermediate piece that the tab on the ignition cylinder fits into that in turn fits into the switch... Now the tab on the ignition cylinder was too thin and made the whole thing sloppy! Dammit! I'm so used to new parts not ever fitting without a good bit of coercion that it didn't occur to me that I was missing something... There are no diagrams in the Toyota manual (it only shows either an earlier model or a 55, not sure which). I then spent ANOTHER hour making some steel shims and epoxying them in place to beef the tab back up and remove the slop. The damage is only in my head as the steel shims will actually be a little better than the aluminum on aluminum, but my brand new ignition barrel is already less than new and I haven't even installed it yet. Additionally, I used all my daylight on that gaffe (the box didn't come until about lunch time), and all I got done in the end is plugging the switch pigtail in... Bummer.
 
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Fuel pump, ignition barrel, dome light, bumpers, windshield stops, and spare swing out all installed (in the snow...). I tried to remove the windshield washer reservoir, and all three bolts sheared... I can't move the truck up to where I have access to electricity until I get it running, so I can't drill the damn bolts out... I tried to get it started from the can again with the new pump, and didn't have enough battery to get it to turn over much... Never even got fuel to the filter.

Things that people might find interesting: the new Toyota dome light is different from the original (and not in a good way). The switch itself is comparably very cheap and made of the same sort of plastic as the lens. Additionally, instead of two short sheet metal screws to attach it to the body, there is only provisions for one. The other hole has a stud instead, and if you install it as it's intended to be installed it doesn't sit flush against the body. It's not at all difficult to rectify (just cut off the stud and use the spot as a locator for a hole), but a little annoying. I haven't done this yet, but it's definitely in my future. It's weird that the official Toyota part is of shoddy aftermarket fit and quality... My experience with Toyota parts has been a roller coaster of emotion so far.

Finally, I have a question. Can anyone tell me the size of the little machine screw that holds the ignition switch to the steering column? It came to me with nothing there, and I can't find anything that small in my collection of nuts and bolts. I'm hoping to be able to go down into town tomorrow and get some hardware, and it's not really something I can bring with me for reference... If no one knows and someone is willing to find out for me, it's a matter of removing the 6 machine screws holding the plastic steering column cover in place, then it's right there on the DS.

Also, has anyone installed SOR's windshield washer kit? It's similar to the stock unit, but different enough (and without any literature) to make it a bit of a puzzle... For starters, I'm not 1000% sure how it mounts to the bracket, and there are a total of three outlets for hoses instead of the single stock outlet.

Also, I broke the handle on the upper tailgate... The chromed cast piece. The tailgate was pretty out of whack when I got it. I straightened it out quite a bit, but there's still apparently a little to go. As I was opening the tailgate to grease the thing, it snapped... Does anyone have a spare handle they'd be willing to part with?
 
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I looked through my SOR goodies again and looked on SOR's website. Nothing about how this pump is supposed to be hooked up. I googled it and ended up on CCOT's site, and they have a scan of a copy of a copy of a copy of the installation instructions for the same kit. It's ALMOST mostly legible, but the part I need clarification on is completely useless. I called SOR, and they have no idea either (no one's ever asked...). So am I an idiot here?

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I have to be honest, I've never dealt with a windshield washer pump... I THINK the nozzle at the bottom of the reservoir feeds to the clocked nozzle on the pump, then the nozzle pointing straight up goes to the sprayers on the hood... Anyone have any insight on this?

Regardless, I'm going to try to use the original one (I got the kit as a spare/insurance), but I have my doubts that it works.
 
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Argh! Can't win today. I just got off the phone with the fuel tank repair guy. He initially said it was going to be about 2 weeks (not exactly, that's on me), and he said he'll likely give me a call some time Thursday... I assume that call is to come pick it up. That really puts a cramp in my getting this thing on the road by the weekend (my optimistic projection as of this morning)... With the snow starting to accumulate and our other car not being very appropriate to the driving conditions, I'm getting pretty anxious to get this thing on the road. Never mind the fact that I just want to drive the thing for what it is...
 

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IF (big IF) that's a tiny itsy bitsy centrifugal pump, which it looks like it is, then the suction would be the nozzle "pointing straight up" and the discharge would be the tangential nozzle. Is the motor on the other side of the plastic tab?

Never messed with an aftermarket washer reservoir though, so take that for what it's worth.

As far as the dome light - the original one starting in 1974 was plastic too, and often the switch is broken because of that. Pictures of the before and after would help. It's this one basically right? Didn't know they had any variations of this part...
http://coolfj40.stores.yahoo.net/domligin.html
 
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