Tacoma vs 250 video

[Romer]

I watch her channel as she talks a lot about the Tacoma and modifications

If I was choosing a Tacoma or a Land Cruiser, I would have gone with the Land Cruiser 250 or GX550

I choose a Tacoma because I was looking at a Tacoma vs 250 And Keeping the 200 series. I (personal preference) like my 200 series more than the 250, but I also have upgraded the electronics with an Android head unit. So it was a Tacoma and a Land Cruiser or two Land Cruisers decision for me. I do agree on the non Hybrid on the Tacoma. The space under the rear seat fits all my tools and off road gear. In a Hybrid, that would be consumed by the Battery. After driving both (Tacoma), I picked the non-Hybrid because I (personal preference) didn't see a LOT of advantage for the Hybrid. I have not driven a 250.

If this was going to be a family vehicle, would have gone for the 250 (Likely GX550) as the larger back seat room and climate control. Although, the Tacoma back seat isn't horrible, it just isn't as comfy and roomy as the Land Cruiser. Not bad for kids, OK for adults for short trips. When more than 2 adults are traveling, I take the 200 series. Also the 200 series back seat has more room for my dogs

Note some familiar faces even though glimpses. I saw Jackson and maybe a few other freinds here.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utd2F7Hl9Xw

 

[BC9392]

Good video for features

Interesting there was no conversation about ground clearance or locking diffs.

 

[Notyourmomslx450]

I watch her channel as she talks a lot about the Tacoma and modifications

If I was choosing a Tacoma or a Land Cruiser, I would have gone with the Land Cruiser 250 or GX550

I choose a Tacoma because I was looking at a Tacoma vs 250 And Keeping the 200 series. I (personal preference) like my 200 series more than the 250, but I also have upgraded the electronics with an Android head unit. So it was a Tacoma and a Land Cruiser or two Land Cruisers decision for me. I do agree on the non Hybrid on the Tacoma. The space under the rear seat fits all my tools and off road gear. In a Hybrid, that would be consumed by the Battery. After driving both (Tacoma), I picked the non-Hybrid because I (personal preference) didn't see a LOT of advantage for the Hybrid. I have not driven a 250.

If this was going to be a family vehicle, would have gone for the 250 (Likely GX550) as the larger back seat room and climate control. Although, the Tacoma back seat isn't horrible, it just isn't as comfy and roomy as the Land Cruiser. Not bad for kids, OK for adults for short trips. When more than 2 adults are traveling, I take the 200 series. Also the 200 series back seat has more room for my dogs

Note some familiar faces even though glimpses. I saw Jackson and maybe a few other freinds here.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utd2F7Hl9Xw

I heard Jackson talkin on the radio, and saw Kurt....

 

[Rzeppa]

I should have had you drive my 250 when you were at my shop Ken! And you should have had me drive your Taco. One of the things that has jumped out at me about the hybrid is how incredibly quiet it is. When the ICE shuts down and you're just driving on electric it is soooooo quiet. The software switching between ICE, electric, or both is incredibly smooth, you really can't feel it in the seat of your pants, you just look down and the tach says zero RPMs. It also has incredible get up and go. It's hard to tell how much is just the turbo and how much is the electric motor adding its ooomph. But between that and getting between 24-26 MPG, I'm just really really happy with the hybrid.

 

[Capriblue45]

completely agree with you Jeff on how smooth and quiet the 250 is. I have seen several reviews on the web where people are complaining that they do not get anywhere close to the advertised MPG. All I can say is they must drive it like they stole it because mine is currently showing 24.1 MPG since I picked it up from the dealer with mixed driving.

 

[Corbet]

My 250 has been getting 21 with my daily driving. I’m higher altitude than Denver and I’ve got a 1500’ descent/climb between home and town. So I can’t really complain.

Definitely the most quiet vehicle in our fleet. See how much that changes when I put AT tires on it.

 

[Romer]

My Tacoma is really quite as well

I have had it for almost 4 months now and very happy with it. No isssues, no problems and drives awesome.

I trade off between the Taco and 200. I like driving both.

My gas mileage is in the 18's mostly because I drive up and down Arapahoe road for most things and that is stop at every light even at night.

On the highway running about 22, BUT I did go from 31 to 33" tires and none of what I am talking about has been recalculated for that. The Trail hunter is delivered with 33's, I wonder if there is a setting someplace to change the calculation. Is that a 6% change, 23.4 MPG?

These tires are E rated and heavier along with my sliders and skid plate, so a bit more weight than stock

 

[Rzeppa]

I spoke with BVB at the meeting before last about odo/speedo corrections for the 250 and he stated that the coefficients are hard coded and can not be changed, even by reflashing the firmware.

In the past, every year when driving to Cruise Moab, I write down the odo reading at mile marker 100 just past Glennwood and then again at the Utah line so I get the correction for my tire diameter for that year's amount of wear. In my 60 it is 13%, in my 40 it is about the same, they both run 33s. I haven't driven my 45 to Moab, but when I go past a radar trailer it is pretty close on the speedo to what the radar says. When I got it, it had 7.50 x 16 bias plies, which measured 32" when I took them off, and I have been running 33s on it ever since.

 

[jps8460]

Cool Video!! This was the Toyota drive to Destination Outdoor. They are both incredible platforms.

 

[White Stripe]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZmIPnulamg

 

[Rzeppa]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZmIPnulamg

That trail reminds me a lot of Spring Creek. With Elephant Hill and Hell's Revenge sprinkled in. Where the video ends looks a lot like Hell's Gate. I would back up and try a different line.

 

[White Stripe]

That trail reminds me a lot of Spring Creek. With Elephant Hill and Hell's Revenge sprinkled in. Where the video ends looks a lot like Hell's Gate. I would back up and try a different line.

Ya there is a part 2 on youtube

 

[allen.wrench]

So that's what Ben has been doing instead of replying to my emails I shot him a few questions in June asking about his front bumper's 3rd gen Taco winch visibility and attachment method. Guess he was busy. Idk if anyone knows, I'd appreciate it.

3rd gen Taco front bumpers all appear to hide the winch making it difficult to see how the line winds up on the spool. I guess it does protect against road debris and looks good for the mall.

Call me weird but I hope for 4th gen Taco they mix things up and let the operators see what the winch is doing.

Allen

 

[Corbet]

I would say that issue is limited to Tacoma bumpers.

 

[DaveInDenver]

3rd gen Taco front bumpers all appear to hide the winch making it difficult to see how the line winds up on the spool. I guess it does protect against road debris and looks good for the mall.

Call me weird but I hope for 4th gen Taco they mix things up and let the operators see what the winch is doing.

I would say that issue is limited to Tacoma bumpers.

Those little middle section bumper replacements seem to like hidden winch and a sloping fairlead. Wouldn't seem to be what you want ideally.

But then again ARB bumpers have been kind of a PITA going back to even the one on the 1985 mini truck, which isn't significantly worse or better than the one on my 2008 Tacoma.

I suppose it's just the way it is with plate bumpers on modern trucks that aren't an FJ40 or CJ7 like this that they get buried to some extent. It's also not ideal to push the winch way out in front of the grill for a variety of reasons, not least of which is important structurally, which would put a lot of force on the frame horns to put it way out in the clear. Nevermind the approach angle and such.

But lest one be tempted to pull out a 4" hole saw and go to town, all that flat sheet metal in an ARB isn't just cosmetic. If you cut bigger access holes you risk having the bumper end up with a few extra kinks and folds and that is also not gonna be good for the frame.

A crawler tube bumper solves this issue but then doesn't do much against that deer strike or wayward shopping cart. And it's a select few who really like to see the wiring harness, primed sheet metal and bolts holding your fender to the radiator core support no longer hidden by a bumper...

Shrug. No perfect solutions only compromises.

 

[nakman]

Call me weird but I hope for 4th gen Taco they mix things up and let the operators see what the winch is doing.

Allen

I agree, not a fan of "hidden" winches... just makes them harder to use.

Ironman just came out with their 4th gen Tacoma bumper... I am guessing you can reach above it and touch the spool? Their pictures don't really help... also guessing that license plate will flip out of the way of the fairlead. this seems at least as good as most of them, at least there are big holes on each side for disengaging the spool. Just have to remote mount the control box somewhere under the hood.

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[Corbet]

not much you can do now that bumpers are flush with the grill on nearly all modern trucks. I'd dare to say modern vehicles no longer really have "bumpers" in that you'd best not bump anything and expect zero damage.

 

[allen.wrench]

That's a good idea Tim. I hadn't considered Ironman before.

Seems maybe the 4th gen Taco bumper has winch visibility if the light bar spot is left empty. The 3rd gen Taco front bumper might also have winch visibility without a light bar. Idk who needs a light bar?

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Are you able to get any deals?

Allen

 

[Notyourmomslx450]

That trail reminds me a lot of Spring Creek. With Elephant Hill and Hell's Revenge sprinkled in. Where the video ends looks a lot like Hell's Gate. I would back up and try a different line.

All those trails you listed are very easy compared to this trail....
This is probably the hardest trail in Northern California.
It's 12.25 miles long as well...
I hope to conquer it this coming summer, after we do Rubithon.

 

[Rzeppa]

All those trails you listed are very easy compared to this trail....
This is probably the hardest trail in Northern California.
It's 12.25 miles long as well...
I hope to conquer it this coming summer, after we do Rubithon.

When was the last time you ran Spring Creek?