Screwed for classic plate renewal

[dr350jja]

We need to stop electing politicians who monkey with these laws under the cover of darkness, such that it's a surprise for anyone with collector plates.

I think that pretty much sums it up!!!

 

[Rzeppa]

76 to 82. when federal emissions started. anything prior to that, you just walk in and get your plates.

Federal emission requirements started with the 1968 model year.

Colorado obviously doesn't care about what the federal requirements were when the vehicles were designed, certified by EPA and sold. The original requirements were in ppm of CO and HC. Now they are in grams per mile. The Colorado legislature keeps moving the goalposts.

I assume the underlying motivation is that the auto industry gives campaign contributions to lawmakers who will pass legislation which gets cars off the road so the industry can sell more new cars. Nowhere was this more blatant than the so-called "cash for clunkers" boondoggle several years ago.

 

[Garth]

I grew-up in Colorado Springs. I spent 16 years in Texas and the last year in Georgia.

I miss the people, the weather and the mountains...but everytime Colorado makes the news lately (or this type of thread) it makes me sick.

 

[PabloCruise]

Well I just got my renewal for the '74 Pig (first renewal) and there is no emissions test required.

I also saw the following in the Latest Scoop magazine, where they were quoting Harold Naber on policy TR-13-19, issued by CO Dept of Revenue for the county clerks.

There are 3 categories of collector vehicles:
Cat A: 1975 and earlier w/ no e-test required
Cat B: Post '75 vehicles registered before Sept 2009 which were grandfathered in when the 25-year eligibility requirement was discontinued. These vehicles are not required to pass emission tests upon renewal.
Cat C: Post '75 vehicles at least 32 years old and newly eligible for collector series registration. Emission tests will be required every 5 years.

I think I got collector plates for my '78 40 prior to Sept 2009, I'll have to check. In which case I would guess there is no e-test, based on the above...

 

[subzali]

Sept 2009 is when they stopped the rolling 25 year rule.

If that cat b description is true then that's good news but I won't believe it until march of 2015 when I have to renew

 

[Rzeppa]

Well I just got my renewal for the '74 Pig (first renewal) and there is no emissions test required.

I also saw the following in the Latest Scoop magazine, where they were quoting Harold Naber on policy TR-13-19, issued by CO Dept of Revenue for the county clerks.

There are 3 categories of collector vehicles:
Cat A: 1975 and earlier w/ no e-test required
Cat B: Post '75 vehicles registered before Sept 2009 which were grandfathered in when the 25-year eligibility requirement was discontinued. These vehicles are not required to pass emission tests upon renewal.
Cat C: Post '75 vehicles at least 32 years old and newly eligible for collector series registration. Emission tests will be required every 5 years.

I think I got collector plates for my '78 40 prior to Sept 2009, I'll have to check. In which case I would guess there is no e-test, based on the above...

Good info! That means both my '71 and '78 are good to go with no e-test (until they move the goalposts again). It also means that once I get my '76 back up, I only have to deal with it once every 5 years.

 

[PabloCruise]

Sept 2009 is when they stopped the rolling 25 year rule.

If that cat b description is true then that's good news but I won't believe it until march of 2015 when I have to renew

But if you renew in March of '15, then you are in Cat C, eh?

 

[PabloCruise]

But if you renew in March of '15, then you are in Cat C, eh?

Or I guess it may be more accurate to say that you are NOT in Cat B if you got your classic plates in March of '10. If you simply renewed in March of '10 then it is a different story...

 

[subzali]

I have had my classic plates since 2005. So I would be cat b.

 

[2nd Childhood]

Last year I took my 78 to a small service station on about 40th and Federal. the guy opened the hood, put a wire on #1 spark plug, placed the sniffer in the exhaust, let it idle, pushed the spring on the carb to get a slightly higher RPM, said you passed. He gave me the paperwork and I was gone. This was NOT a Colorado State station, but a small business that can do pre 81 I believe? It worked very well for me. I will be back in April when I need to renew.

 

[PabloCruise]

5 year sticker just came for the '74 Pig! We'll see how it goes for the '78 40 in a few months...

 

[Rzeppa]

5 year sticker just came for the '74 Pig! We'll see how it goes for the '78 40 in a few months...

Woot!

 

[PabloCruise]

Woot!

I know!

 

[nuclearlemon]

pre 76 is easy, nothing required. i'll be curious when it comes time to do you 78 to see if they just let you through too. hopefully. not that i have to worry, but i'll be sad for the folks that have had cp if they have to test now and aren't grandfathered in.

 

[PabloCruise]

pre 76 is easy, nothing required. i'll be curious when it comes time to do you 78 to see if they just let you through too. hopefully. not that i have to worry, but i'll be sad for the folks that have had cp if they have to test now and aren't grandfathered in.

I got my little postcard in the mail this week for the collector plates on the '78 - no test required!!!

 

[subzali]

I got my little postcard in the mail this week for the collector plates on the '78 - no test required!!!

Wow, that's great news!

 

[Rzeppa]

Just scrolled back and it doesn't appear that I reported that I got my 5 year renewal for my 78 non-USA FJ45 for April with no test required. I sent it in and got the papers and sticker back, all good until our esteemed legislators change the rulz again...

 

[PabloCruise]

Just scrolled back and it doesn't appear that I reported that I got my 5 year renewal for my 78 non-USA FJ45 for April with no test required. I sent it in and got the papers and sticker back, all good until our esteemed legislators change the rulz again...

Good deal, we have to keep these Cruisers on & off the road!

 

[subzali]

Just read the website again, apparently now there's some sort of 32-year rule and a mileage affidavit :

Still waiting with bated breath for my renewal card to see what they are going to want me to do.

About: Vehicles must be (a) Model year 1975 or earlier; or(b) Model year 1976 or later that was registered as a collector's item prior to September 1, 2009; except that a vehicle so registered is not eligible for registration as a collector's item upon sale or transfer to a new owner; OR (c) A model year at least thirty-two years old unless the vehicle was registered before september 1,2009, and meets the requirements of paragraph (b) of this subsection (2). if the vehicle is being registered under this paragraph (c) and in the program area, as defined in section 42-4-304: (i) The vehicle must have passed an emissions test meeting the standards of part 3 of article 4 of this title within the last twelve months before being initially registered by the owner as a collector's item; and (ii) The owner must sign an affidavit DR 2839 that the vehicle will not be driven on roadways for more than four thousand five hundred miles per year. All taxes and fees shall be five times the annual taxes and fees normally assessed.

Available For: Passenger cars and trucks that do not exceed sixteen thousand pounds empty weight. Misc. Info: Motor vehicles that were grandfathered in prior to September 1, 2009 may remain registered as a collector's item until registration is allowed to expire or upon sale or transfer of ownership. Fees: One time fee of $50.00 for issuance or replacement, in addition to other taxes and fees.

 

[velorider4]

I just went in and did this for my 78 40. I was not grandfathered in so fell in under part C above. I got an emission test every year before on my old tags but this year decided on trying to get the 5 year tags after watching three "newer" cars get tested while they struggled to get the hood open and then didn't understand why the couldn't just plug up to a computer at AirCare. I showed the DMV my registration, emissions test, and signed the 4000 mile/yr affidavit. The classic vehicle tags and 2020 stickers showed up about a week later. Five years of taxes and fees cost ~$200. My registration card did say emission test required but at least I don't have to worry about that now for 5 yrs.

Kevin