Screwed for classic plate renewal

AdamKFarmer

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Bob, I had to completely re-smog my '82 40 when I bought it. It's a long process but not impossible. I would suggest to tackle yourself as I don't think too many local shops would know much about it. You only need a cat if your truck came with one. I'm not sure on the '79. Feel free to give me a PM or call if you want to bounce ideas around.
 

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79 had a cat in addition to under hood stuff
 

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Hello, new to the forum and having a blast reading through the posts. I drove my 79 40 down from AK and I now have to register the thing in CO. Sounds like a pain. It is desmogged and the previous owner just put a straight pipe exhaust out the side.

From reading it looks like I need an entire new exhaust system and get the smog pump working. I am not up for the challenge of learning how to do the exhaust - does anyone have any recommendations on where/how to have this done?

thanks
-Rob

Good luck. I would keep that AK plate going as long as possible...
 

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:clap: I haven't kept up with the subtle law changes for emissions, but looks like I'll have 5 more years to figure it out.
 

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kurtnkegger

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Surprising to see 5 year plates only costing $200...That's only $40 a year! My yearly plates are $76, plus the $15 yearly smog test for my 40. I mat have to rethink putting Classic plates on mine...
 

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yeah the classic plates are cheaper i think, the 40 i just registered I think was about the same.
 

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:clap: I haven't kept up with the subtle law changes for emissions, but looks like I'll have 5 more years to figure it out.

I see it says 1976...I thought the new cutoff for classic plates was 1975, unless you already had them from before they changed it - used to be 25 years or older.

Whenever I finish putting my '76 back together, I was hoping to just have to get it smogged once and then desmog it. Does this mean I can do that? I know my '78 (plated in 2004) and my '71 (plated in 1998) never need smog testing (unless of course they change the laws AGAIN LOL).
 

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I have a 77 and got Collector 5 year plates after the cutoff. The deal is you have to have the emissions test every 5 years and also keep it under 4500 miles a year. I think that applies to anything older than 32 years until you get to 1975, which doesnt ever require a smog test
 
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So.........an interesting turn of events.

I received a letter a couple of weeks ago that said that the renewal doc's that stated I had pass emissions were incorrect, and that I do NOT have to pass emissions to renew. I was able to go to the Adams Cty. DMV yesterday and renew my tags without issue, except that I had to pay a $75 late fee for being 3 months late in renewing (and I have to send in a form to the state office to get that fee refunded).

I will try to scan and upload the letter for everyone's reference.

This is for my '79 that was grandfathered in for being registered prior to 2009.

Bringing this back up, I received a renewal for my 5 year plates, again saying that I need to have an emissions test to renew...

So I called Adams Co DMV and was told that I am no longer exempt since I let my registration lapse in 2013.

I explained the situation and they are currently trying to resolve it.........
 
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For any other owners of grandfathered vehicles, here is the full statute:

(2) "Collector's item" means a motor vehicle, including a truck or truck tractor, that is of:
(a) Model year 1975 or earlier;
(b) Model year 1976 or later that was registered as a collector's item prior to September 1, 2009; except that a vehicle so registered is not eligible for registration as a collector's item upon sale or transfer to a new owner; or
(c) A model year at least thirty-two years old unless the vehicle was registered before September 1, 2009, and meets the requirements of paragraph (b) of this subsection (2). If the vehicle is being registered under this paragraph (c) and in the program area, as defined in section 42-4-304:
(I) The vehicle must have passed an emissions test meeting the standards of part 3 of article 4 of this title within the last twelve months before being initially registered by the owner as a collector's item; and
(II) The owner must sign an affidavit that the vehicle will not be driven on roadways for more than four thousand five hundred miles per year.

I believe based on the wording that I am also exempt from the mileage limit, and don't have to sign the affidavit.

The other thing I am questioning from reviewing the CRS, is what the person at the DMV told me yesterday, that I lost my exemption when my registration lapsed. That isn't stated anywhere in the CRS that I can find, the statue quoted above just says the exemption is lost upon sale or transfer to a new owner, ownership of the vehicle never changed.
 
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While I did have to sign the affidavit when I renewed my collector's plates on my '71 in December, it occurred to me that they have no way of knowing the odometer reading other than when I first bought it in 1998. I got collector's plates for it back then, and it has never been tested. When I got my '78 in 2004, I did have to have it tested because it was non-USA and I was importing it, I got collector's plates for it then and it has never been tested since. I wish they would just go back the the rolling 25 year old eligibility they used to have.
 

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I just registered my '77 40 as a collector vehicle, and though had to have emissions, I wasn't asked to sign an affidavit that the mileage would be limited.
 

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I just renewed and was shocked to see 5 year collector plates cheaper than they used to be. Shhhhh..... be very quiet about this.
 

Rzeppa

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I just renewed and was shocked to see 5 year collector plates cheaper than they used to be. Shhhhh..... be very quiet about this.

To me it isn't so much the cost as much as the hassle of being totally smogged plus having to pass a test that is more stringent than the standards that were in place when the rig was originally manufactured. Back in the 70s and 80s, it wasn't grams per mile, it was parts per million and there was none of this treadmill bullshit.
 

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I think if u go to 81 and older testing places u dont have to go on the dyno. I think its ridiculous 81 and older need emissions. When I was in New York they did away with emissions testing all together and just scanned for check engine lights and did a safety inspection.
 

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I think its ridiculous 81 and older need emissions. When I was in New York they did away with emissions testing all together and just scanned for check engine lights and did a safety inspection.

Mike I totally agree with you on how ridiculous the testing is here in Colorado. I remember when I first moved here in 1980, they went away from safety inspections like we have for Cruise Moab (do your brakes work? Do your lights work?) to emissions. As a 21-year-old, my takeaway from that was, "how stupid are these legislators?" As a 59 year old, that question remains.
 

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I think if u go to 81 and older testing places u dont have to go on the dyno. I think its ridiculous 81 and older need emissions. When I was in New York they did away with emissions testing all together and just scanned for check engine lights and did a safety inspection.
This used to be the way here too but removed the OBD function because it just cost people tons of money to make the computer happy when the car was blowing clean out the tailpipe. Personally, I'm happy with the way CO has it. Just put a cat in your exhaust and keep your engine in good tune and you will pass every time. My project car has an aftermarket ECU that would not pass OBD but it still is clean out the back.
 

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This used to be the way here too but removed the OBD function because it just cost people tons of money to make the computer happy when the car was blowing clean out the tailpipe. Personally, I'm happy with the way CO has it. Just put a cat in your exhaust and keep your engine in good tune and you will pass every time. My project car has an aftermarket ECU that would not pass OBD but it still is clean out the back.
I think they still check for codes dont they in addition to the dyno run?
 
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