Need Advice/Help '03 Supercharged 3.4L

kev11n

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Hey all,

Here's my situation,
Bought a 2003 Tacoma 4wd, access cab, 3.4L, with an installed TRD Supercharger, @ 148k miles.
Soon after purchase the check engine light came on and so I took it to O'reilys to have the code reading taken. They said it came back reading P300, P302, P303, which was an indication that I was experiencing misfires.
After talking with the guys and doing some of my own research I was able to figure out that I should start by replacing Spark Plugs and go from there.
Had a buddy help me get the plugs gaped and changed correctly, yet was still getting the same codes.
Next step was replacing the 3 coils and the other 3 wires going to the other side of the engine.
Still having this "misfire" code.
Tried a couple fill ups with Lucas Oil to clean the injectors as this was my next step to take.
Also ran a few fill ups with HEAT to try and see if that had any effect on the injectors.
The HEAT seemed to work for a month or so as the check engine light went off on its own. The next time it came back on, I was cancelling cruise control on the highway and personally felt a "misfire" (Or at least that's what I thought I felt), (engine seemed to skip a beat).

While all this was going on I was noticing that I was topping off my coolant regularly, and when I started my car first thing in the morning, there was certainly a "rough idle" for maybe a full 30 seconds then the truck feels fine.
My inexperienced guess was that I had some type of head gasket leak and overnight there was coolant leaking into the cylinders slowly and when I start it up first thing it's misfiring because of the coolant pool inside, and then it clears after burning for ~30seconds.
Caved in and took it to Toy-Auto Masters to do some proper diagnosis.
After looking at it all they could suspect was a fuel injector stuck open and leaking in too much fuel, but I insisted they keep it overnight to get a cold start and take a look. Well they called me the next morning and said they pressurized the cooling system and that I did indeed have coolant inside the cylinders.

So I'm kind of stuck. I am under the impression that I need a new head gasket, but fear there's more, and I really don't have all that much experience or knowledge in fixing on my own. I was quoted $2300 for a head gasket replacement, but am looking to source it for cheaper.
I have some friends that work on cars and told me they are easily able to help me get it replaced (there's also a 6 part youtube series doing this whole process step by step). What I'm more worried about now is the fact that I own a Tacoma with TRD supercharger that is wearing my truck out faster and I don't really know what errors I'm actually experiencing.
I was also reading that the stock injectors for the Tacoma's only produce 240-250cc and toyota made fuel injectors at the time that were capable of 305cc and those are needed to run with a supercharger.

I live in Denver, Colorado if there is anyone in the area/state that can assist or guide me in the right direction without trying to squeeze every penny out of me (like all the other mechanics around). I can drive the truck to you or meetup somewhere in Colorado to have you take a look.

Currently I'm think a head gasket replacement within the next week or 2 with some friends, and don't know if I should be also looking to replace/upgrade injectors.
The engine is at 156k now and I want to repair it and hope to have it last upwards of 300k.
Also when replacing the head gaskets, what other replacements should I be focusing on while my engine is apart so much? Is this the time to replace timing belt, pumps, hoses, etc.

Thanks all for taking a look, any help that can be offered is GREATLY appreciated.
 

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Definitely do a full upper gasket kit, both sides. Make sure you take your heads into a machine shop to be measured for warp. 3.4's don't blow head gaskets regularly. it may have been overheated, causing the failure.

Headgaskets are an 8 out of 10 in difficulty for attention to detail and precision. Don't let that deter you, but make sure you don't rush it or skip any steps.
 

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How long has it been since the water pump and timing belt were replaced?
I would definitely take the heads to a machine shop like Squishy recommended. Heads have also been known to crack in 3.4's so they should check that out.

i would also replace the knock sensor wiring pigtail.
 

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How long has it been since the water pump and timing belt were replaced?

i would also replace the knock sensor wiring pigtail.

Yes x2
 

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Its not uncommon for supercharged engines to have cracked heads as mentioned b4. Plan on a very good possibility that the heads will need replaced. While its good to shop around, keep in mind that cheap is not necessarily cheaper in the long run.
 

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How long has it been since the water pump and timing belt were replaced?
I would definitely take the heads to a machine shop like Squishy recommended. Heads have also been known to crack in 3.4's so they should check that out.

i would also replace the knock sensor wiring pigtail.

I'm not exactly sure, I have had this truck for about a year and I only know that I haven't personally had either of those replaced.
I'm thinking the heads are going to be cracked after reading more on gaskets on these engines typically being very reliable.
I'm not sure what to do really, I don't have the space to tear apart my truck at my apartment, was planning on renting space at the DIY garage in Westminster to replace the gaskets with my friends, and can't afford to keep my truck there for a few days while I get this all figured out.
Toy-Auto Masters wasn't much help and quoted me the $2300 for replacing the gaskets, but I know I can source that for much cheaper. And I went to them hoping they would be able to advise me better, but I felt as if I was being rushed into a sale, so I would rather not use a "mainstream" toyota mechanic. If someone on here or knows someone that "specializes" more in Supercharged 3.4's, I would love to be directed accordingly. I think I need someone to take a closer look and also see what other items need replacing, so I can determine if I want to dump that money into the truck, or try to sell it.

Appreciate the input guys.
 

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I'm not exactly sure, I have had this truck for about a year and I only know that I haven't personally had either of those replaced.
I'm thinking the heads are going to be cracked after reading more on gaskets on these engines typically being very reliable.
I'm not sure what to do really, I don't have the space to tear apart my truck at my apartment, was planning on renting space at the DIY garage in Westminster to replace the gaskets with my friends, and can't afford to keep my truck there for a few days while I get this all figured out.
Toy-Auto Masters wasn't much help and quoted me the $2300 for replacing the gaskets, but I know I can source that for much cheaper. And I went to them hoping they would be able to advise me better, but I felt as if I was being rushed into a sale, so I would rather not use a "mainstream" toyota mechanic. If someone on here or knows someone that "specializes" more in Supercharged 3.4's, I would love to be directed accordingly. I think I need someone to take a closer look and also see what other items need replacing, so I can determine if I want to dump that money into the truck, or try to sell it.

Appreciate the input guys.

I have been swapping out the engine on a supercharged 3.4 4runner in my spare time. I have a decent amount of experience with engine rebuilds and swaps and the bottom line is they take a lot time when you do it yourself and cost more money than you would think (all the small stuff adds up).

If you don't have any experience wrenching then I recommend you pay to have it done and I wouldn't go with the "cheap" guy. Pay more and have it done by a reputable shop that will warranty the work. I would go with a shop that is well known with a long list and history of satisfied customers.

Make sure they do a new timing belt and and everything else while they are doing the head gaskets. Yes, it will cost more - but then everything should be good for awhile.

Your truck is relatively low miles so I would think the heads might be fine. My 4runner made it to 235k before the head gasket blew and it was supercharged for 200k of that. (it is also a 96 which was the first year of the 3.4 engine).
 

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Did Toy-Auto masters give you an itemized quote? I would be interested in what they were going to do.

Take for a second opinion. A lot of guys recommend Jesse at ATLR in wheat ridge
 

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Robbie, CTS, or ATLR will all be top notch service at a reasonable price.
 

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Thanks for the advice guys. I think I'll look into taking it into one of those spots and getting it serviced. I found the sites for CTS and ALTR, but what is the one for Robbie? Is one of these places particularly known to be better than the other for Supercharger work? They all have good google reviews.
 

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Supercharger work? What do you need done to the supercharger? I know CTS will rebuild the superchargers from time to time. I would at least have the nose cone oil changed while the supercharger is off for the head gaskets. You can add a URD 7TH injector kit to help prevent pinging. But that's kind of expensive. You could just throw on some colder plugs and a larger 2.4" pulley to reduce boost a little. Pulley boys makes different sized pulleys. Since you have multiple misfire codes I'm pretty sure your gonna need a set of heads, but will find out from sure once it's apart. Also with the supercharger you should be running premium fuel only fyi.
 

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Supercharger work? What do you need done to the supercharger? I know CTS will rebuild the superchargers from time to time. I would at least have the nose cone oil changed while the supercharger is off for the head gaskets. You can add a URD 7TH injector kit to help prevent pinging. But that's kind of expensive. You could just throw on some colder plugs and a larger 2.4" pulley to reduce boost a little. Pulley boys makes different sized pulleys. Since you have multiple misfire codes I'm pretty sure your gonna need a set of heads, but will find out from sure once it's apart. Also with the supercharger you should be running premium fuel only fyi.

Nothing particularly that I know of, but if one of these places has more experience working with them I would prefer to go there in case i need any type of maintenance related to one.
I do run premium (91), and only shop shell or sinclair for "Top Tier Gas" (I don't really know if it makes a difference, but was told it does help, can anyone confirm/deny?)
 

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Thanks for the advice guys. I think I'll look into taking it into one of those spots and getting it serviced. I found the sites for CTS and ALTR, but what is the one for Robbie? Is one of these places particularly known to be better than the other for Supercharger work? They all have good google reviews.

Robbie aka powderpig on the forum. Here is a link to his business in the vendor section
http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=10843
 

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All three of those shops are highly knowledgeable on Toyota systems, superchargers included.
 
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