FZJ80 starting woes

LARGEONE

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True. But please refer to my comment about being an “electrical midget”. Likely won’t be me who figures it out. :)
 

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For those of you following the thread, it's clear the issue is somewhere in the ignition circuit on my 80. I do want to track this down and fix it, but I'd also like to drive my 80 this summer. So to the certain horror of @Rzeppa and @DaveInDenver, I have installed a starter button that activates a relay, sending strong power to the solenoid so it starts every time. If you push the button with no key in the ignition, it will crank but not start. Insert the key, turn to the right, hit the button, and my 80 starts like a champ.

Once I figure out what's wrong and fix it, I can tear all this out easily. But now my 80 will start again. Not being able to wheel in the summer was a bummer.

FYI: found the perfect push button switch (ECH STB6035) at Napa which fit the existing hole for the manual throttle cable, so no cutting required.

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For those of you following the thread, it's clear the issue is somewhere in the ignition circuit on my 80. I do want to track this down and fix it, but I'd also like to drive my 80 this summer. So to the certain horror of @Rzeppa and @DaveInDenver, I have installed a starter button that activates a relay, sending strong power to the solenoid so it starts every time. If you push the button with no key in the ignition, it will crank but not start. Insert the key, turn to the right, hit the button, and my 80 starts like a champ.
Horror, LOL. You know you just became a "WTF previous owner did this?" Welcome to the club, refreshments on the table.

I've said before. They're just tools, get it working, have fun, fix what's broken when it breaks. I'm not sure what you've done that you need to still turn the key but that sounds like you didn't fully bypass the latent issue. But then again I'm OCD would want to know (1) what failed and (b) what I actually did that fixed it.
 
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HDavis

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This sounds like a classic case of leaking magic smoke. You are doomed for certain.
 

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The real question at hand is now where will you put your OEM hand throttle?
 

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some creative rope routing and you could have your pull cord come right out the same spot as the start button. :p
And here I'm thinking "Yeah, that's cool, but why not just pop start it like we've always done?" Then I remembered some people foolishly optioned automatics in mini trucks for some unknown reason.
 

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Out with the old and in with the new! Thanks @DanielChase for loaning me (permanently) a new Denso starter. Had a starting issues last week. Nic @Stuckinthe80s and Chase were able to convince me it was the starter. Second time in 4 or 5 years.
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So while I have the starter out I was going to check the same transmission connector that Romer pointed Matt to check. I have an A442 transmission and everything is on the driver side.

These 4 connections are above the starter. Now I know the two round ones are for the NSS but I wasn't sure what the other two are for. Does anyone else know? I am trying to trace them back but am having difficulty because they run across the top of the tranny.

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I know this may not be my issue or it may not have anything to do with it but I went ahead and replaced my NSS too.
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Today for the first time since replacing my ignition switch my 80 took three turns of the key to start. This was after getting home from the mountains, so it was hot, and I parked, moved the 100, then went to start and park the 80. Doh!
 
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