Finally got one! 82' FJ40

[rover67]

According to Specter, there's a frame from 1/75 - 9/77, and then a different frame from 9/77 - 1984 on LHD FJ40's. For RHD they show one part from 75-84.

So there must be some kind of minor difference but it's not clear what it is. Maybe someone else knows?

I saw that... the wiper assemblies look to be the same though.

I wonder what the difference could be?

Chris, sounds like it's time to get a 40... sell the Alpha like Matt says and take the plunge.

 

[Caribou Sandstorm]

Matt you know me too well...just was in EBay looking at Alfa prices..and used 40's

 

[MDH33]

Matt you know me too well...just was in EBay looking at Alfa prices..and used 40's

Very cool Chris, don't pay the Ebay premium to find a 40 though, we can probably find you a good one locally. What's the budget?

 

[rover67]

hey guys, any reason why this should not work?

if i'm gonna get it it might as well be right.

-Marco

 

[LXBRADY]

hey guys, any reason why this should not work?

if i'm gonna get it it might as well be right.

-Marco

I don't think it will work with the tarp in front of the glass....I'm just saying.

 

[MDH33]

Has the underside of that frame been fiberglassed or something? looks strange. Do you know what year it's from? The difference might be how the defrost vent openings line up.

 

[Uncle Ben]

I would put the bolts in the hinge before you hit highway speed! Just sayin'.....

 

[FJ_Mark]

According to Specter, there's a frame from 1/75 - 9/77, and then a different frame from 9/77 - 1984 on LHD FJ40's. For RHD they show one part from 75-84.

So there must be some kind of minor difference but it's not clear what it is. Maybe someone else knows?

The 75' has a different size motor and motor cover. You can't fit a later motor under the 75' cover. And the cover holes will not line up.

 

[treerootCO]

hey guys, any reason why this should not work?

if i'm gonna get it it might as well be right.

-Marco

1958-1964 is the early windshield frame with the cool vent flap in front.

1965-12/74 40 Series had the wiper assembly above the windshield with a small change in 1968 with the newer wiper motors. 1958-67 all used the same wiper motors. These are the ones like Wes has.

1/75-1984 40 Series had the wiper assembly below the windshield

The difference between 1/75-9/77 and 9/77-1984 is the physical size of the wiper motor and the cover. For 1/75-9/77 Cruisers the new motor is an updated part that requires #192-15B cover & #192-16B cover gasket. For 1/75-9/77 Cruisers the new motor requires drilling 4 new holes for updated cover to fit, the cover is larger.

The one in the picture is a 1/75-9/77 as the windshield nozzle is missing....9/77-1984 40 Series have the washer nozzle in the middle top of the windshield. It was the 9/71-9/77 40s that had the washers in the hood. ( 1968-9/71 and then 9/71-9/77 depending on style)

 

[LXBRADY]

1958-1964 is the early windshield frame with the cool vent flap in front.

1965-12/74 40 Series had the wiper assembly above the windshield with a small change in 1968 with the newer wiper motors. 1958-67 all used the same wiper motors. These are the ones like Wes has.

1/75-1984 40 Series had the wiper assembly below the windshield

The difference between 1/75-9/77 and 9/77-1984 is the physical size of the wiper motor and the cover. For 1/75-9/77 Cruisers the new motor is an updated part that requires #192-15B cover & #192-16B cover gasket. For 1/75-9/77 Cruisers the new motor requires drilling 4 new holes for updated cover to fit, the cover is larger.

The one in the picture is a 1/75-9/77 as the windshield nozzle is missing....

Man, there is a lot of smart people on this site....and then there is me.

 

[rover67]

Wow, thanks for the info Mike.

Martin, it used to be that darker color, and got painted. Also he said it was from a '77.

So it sounds like there are several visible differences. I guess it wouldn't be too PC to throw it on there with a bigger cover to make it look like the later model.

Need to keep looking or decide if I want to get this one and convert it I guess. This one is relatively cheap (300 complete with glass wiper stuff and hinges) so it's tempting. Thanks a ton for the info guys!

 

[treerootCO]

The color is Olive T637 available in 72-77 and not the Olive T653 used from 78-82. Both are respectively called baby s**t brown but the '6' designates green. Someone slapped some white on it but the s**t is shiny underneath

Yours is T681 - Green (80-83)

The Chart below is from an '82 brochure

 

[Uncle Ben]

1958-1964 is the early windshield frame with the cool vent flap in front.

1965-12/74 40 Series had the wiper assembly above the windshield with a small change in 1968 with the newer wiper motors. 1958-67 all used the same wiper motors. These are the ones like Wes has.

1/75-1984 40 Series had the wiper assembly below the windshield

The difference between 1/75-9/77 and 9/77-1984 is the physical size of the wiper motor and the cover. For 1/75-9/77 Cruisers the new motor is an updated part that requires #192-15B cover & #192-16B cover gasket. For 1/75-9/77 Cruisers the new motor requires drilling 4 new holes for updated cover to fit, the cover is larger.

The one in the picture is a 1/75-9/77 as the windshield nozzle is missing....9/77-1984 40 Series have the washer nozzle in the middle top of the windshield. It was the 9/71-9/77 40s that had the washers in the hood. ( 1968-9/71 and then 9/71-9/77 depending on style)

Bzzzzzzzt. Not sure what year of the change but the early wipers were individual motors above the frame and they were changed to a single motor cable assembly above the frame that used the same holes

 

[rover67]

I know it's not the right year, just trying to decide if I should hold out for one that it the right year or just get this one. I'd repaint it the factory color, since that's the ultimate plan for the truck also.

 

[treerootCO]

Bzzzzzzzt. Not sure what year of the change but the early wipers were individual motors above the frame and they were changed to a single motor cable assembly above the frame that used the same holes

I know you are just messing with me because that info is in the text above.

You can't fit an early hard top on a later windshield frame without the little metal piece but the frame is the same.

 

[MDH33]

Bzzzzzzzt. Not sure what year of the change but the early wipers were individual motors above the frame and they were changed to a single motor cable assembly above the frame that used the same holes

I know you are just messing with me because that info is in the text above.

You can't fit an early hard top on a later windshield frame without the little metal piece but the frame is the same.

The holes of individual motor vs single motor are in different locations though, correct?

Here's a pic of a '66 windshield and slightly later (probably 67-71ish) hardtop. The wipers don't align with the cutouts in the hardtop.

 

[treerootCO]

1957-1965 and 1966-1984 was the difference in hard tops I thought...Is your pic the early windshield with the big vent under the glass? Yours looks like the 1958-1964 frame. The wipers were the same from 1958-67 so 64 through 67 used the singles in the same holes. 68 did too but they were weird. Keep in mind that the production date doesn't always match the year of the truck.

 

[rover67]

Thanks again for the wealth of info, I am gonna pass on the windshield and try and find a 9/77-84 one.

So far I have no hard top, so fit with it is irrelevant.

 

[MDH33]

Thanks again for the wealth of info, I am gonna pass on the windshield and try and find a 9/77-84 one.

So far I have no hard top, so fit with it is irrelevant.

sorry for the hijack.

 

[rover67]

no problem, all good info.

'cept the guy I was looking to get it from says there is no difference between those years. He claims it is the same windshield frame as is on his 78..