Corona Virus Panic

[DouglasVB]

It is interesting that they are listing liquor stores and rec. marijuana are considered non essential. My alcoholic Uncle might argue that liquor stores aren't non essential.

Finally! Something to gloat about from California. Our weed and liquor stores are generally still open

 

[DaveInDenver]

Finally! Something to gloat about from California. Our weed and liquor stores are generally still open

My liquor store was open last night. Dunno.

 

[MountainGoat]

My liquor store was open last night. Dunno.

DaveInDenver: You're not in Denver anymore.

 

[DaveInDenver]

DaveInDenver: You're not in Denver anymore.

I was trying to understand, so only Denver closed them. Didn't see anything on the local paper's website.

No sports, no beer - they are walking a thin line. :-/

 

[MountainGoat]

Denver just "adjusted" their decision to close liquor stores and pot shops. They will remain open provided they adhere to "extreme" social distancing practices.

 

[Inukshuk]

Denver just "adjusted" their decision to close liquor stores and pot shops. They will remain open provided they adhere to "extreme" social distancing practices.

Agreed. Soo funny that it was reversed. There was a line to the corner at my local shop. (I saw it driving by)

Order Section 6.f.xix:

Essential Businesses. For the purposes of this Order, individuals may leave their residence to work for or obtain services at any "Essential Businesses," which for purposes of this order means:
...
xix. Licensed liquor stores, so long as written Physical Distancing protocols are developed and strictly implemented to limit the number of people on the licensed premises at the same time;"
...

 

[DouglasVB]

Good I'm glad Denver is adjusting things on the fly as they identify issues. Shows good leadership that even if they make a mistake (close the pot and the booze shops), they can fix it quick and come up with a way to make it okay (extreme social distancing).

 

[3rdGen4R]

Yup!

 

[BritKLR]

omg...the same old argument MJ v alcohol......lungs v liver.....covid 19 upper respiratory failure v.......f@#$ it fire up a fatty.....

 

[Rzeppa]

I got a call today at work from a nurse from UC Health. They have a shortage of N95 masks for their workers. There is a 3D model of an N95 mask, which I have downloaded and am building right now. It's a 2.5 hour build, plus the user still has to provide the filtration, which my new nurse friend at UC Health is working on at her end and looks like there may be an answer in their inventory. Turns out that surgical masks they have a'plenty, but those don't have small enough pores to filter out viruses, only droplets like coughs. N95 masks have smaller filtration. We had a good phone conversation and several follow up emails. N100 masks are even better. Those are those ones we use when we're painting our Land Cruisers and have those charcoal cartridges.

Bottom line is,
(1) Surgical masks don't protect our front line health care workers, they don't have the smaller pore size needed for viruses.
(2) N95 Masks do, but they don't have enough of them. This nurse told me today that they only get one per worker per day.
(3) N100 Masks work also.

I am 3D printing N95 masks (it is a rigid design with a round spot for users to add the filtration membrane) as fast as I can. The design calls for the post-printing step of heating them and bending them into the shape of a mask. But as members of Rising Sun, please check your stash of regular paper masks and please donate those to hospitals. I can give contact info, email me at web@american3dprinting.net.

 

[jps8460]

Can someone fact check this for me... I would do it myself, but I vomit in my mouth a little each time I start typing it into google...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonb...Cu699PpVr8u-79cqXwIz_uPjVk5olZU0#ec5bc7b4bea3

 

[BritKLR]

I got a call today at work from a nurse from UC Health. They have a shortage of N95 masks for their workers. There is a 3D model of an N95 mask, which I have downloaded and am building right now. It's a 2.5 hour build, plus the user still has to provide the filtration, which my new nurse friend at UC Health is working on at her end and looks like there may be an answer in their inventory. Turns out that surgical masks they have a'plenty, but those don't have small enough pores to filter out viruses, only droplets like coughs. N95 masks have smaller filtration. We had a good phone conversation and several follow up emails. N100 masks are even better. Those are those ones we use when we're painting our Land Cruisers and have those charcoal cartridges.

Bottom line is,
(1) Surgical masks don't protect our front line health care workers, they don't have the smaller pore size needed for viruses.
(2) N95 Masks do, but they don't have enough of them. This nurse told me today that they only get one per worker per day.
(3) N100 Masks work also.

I am 3D printing N95 masks (it is a rigid design with a round spot for users to add the filtration membrane) as fast as I can. The design calls for the post-printing step of heating them and bending them into the shape of a mask. But as members of Rising Sun, please check your stash of regular paper masks and please donate those to hospitals. I can give contact info, email me at web@american3dprinting.net.

We‘ve seen a number of internet posts regarding “homesewn” masks to donate to healthcare providers, My real world critical incident experience is this doesn’t really work. My sewing company is willing and able produce ems style masks to a acceptable, non-liability design standard, I just need someone in a position of authority to give us a design, liability waiver and non-commission contract/approval to get things moving!.......

 

[OHUZJ100]

Can someone fact check this for me... I would do it myself, but I vomit in my mouth a little each time I start typing it into google...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonb...Cu699PpVr8u-79cqXwIz_uPjVk5olZU0#ec5bc7b4bea3

Story is fairly similar in all the news outlets, I don't have any reason to believe this gent is presenting a bias.

Seems wildly dangerous a big advantage of crypto is decentralization. To create a government backed crypto currency again would essentially make it a fiat currency again. What's the point?

I have researched crypto at least in comparison to the dollar and similar fiat currencies, and imo (like any asked) this seems like it could result in a crash of the dollar.

Creating a currency in this manner means it has as much intrinsic value as the entity backing it (our government).

Scary thought thinking our government could directly control the value of a currency. Once again, imo

 

[Rzeppa]

We‘ve seen a number of internet posts regarding “homesewn” masks to donate to healthcare providers, My real world critical incident experience is this doesn’t really work. My sewing company is willing and able produce ems style masks to a acceptable, non-liability design standard, I just need someone in a position of authority to give us a design, liability waiver and non-commission contract/approval to get things moving!.......

Paul, from my conversations with this nurse at UC Health, it is mainly about the pore size that a filter material can filter. I didn't know this until our conversations, but surgical masks are fine with (cough/sneeze droplets) but their filtration pore size isn't small enough for actual viruses that aren't carried by small droplets, thus the need for the N95 and/or N100 filtration. They (our front line health care professionals) don't have enough research-based knowledge to understand how much transmission is droplet based, airborne, or surface transmitted, so they are taking a belts and suspenders approach while time is of the essence, and they (our health care professionals) need to stay healthy themselves in order to be able to care for the sick.

 

[gungriffin]

Can someone fact check this for me... I would do it myself, but I vomit in my mouth a little each time I start typing it into google...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonb...Cu699PpVr8u-79cqXwIz_uPjVk5olZU0#ec5bc7b4bea3

Story is fairly similar in all the news outlets, I don't have any reason to believe this gent is presenting a bias.

Seems wildly dangerous a big advantage of crypto is decentralization. To create a government backed crypto currency again would essentially make it a fiat currency again. What's the point?

I have researched crypto at least in comparison to the dollar and similar fiat currencies, and imo (like any asked) this seems like it could result in a crash of the dollar.

Creating a currency in this manner means it has as much intrinsic value as the entity backing it (our government).

Scary thought thinking our government could directly control the value of a currency. Once again, imo

Care to know one of the scariest reasons that has been floated for the creation of a digital dollar? Because the Fed admits that it would struggle to keep money in the banking system if there were negative rates. That problem goes away if the government gains control of all dollars that aren't in banking circulation. You cannot run from negative rates then.

I cannot see how this system would work though. The world would not be willing to convert over to a digital currency that could so easily be visibly debased. It would also require the world to turn in their dollars to handle the conversion. I cannot see how the US would maintain reserve currency status while doing this and most of our way of life is dependent on maintaining reserve status.

 

[J1000]

I got a call today at work from a nurse from UC Health. They have a shortage of N95 masks for their workers. There is a 3D model of an N95 mask, which I have downloaded and am building right now. It's a 2.5 hour build, plus the user still has to provide the filtration, which my new nurse friend at UC Health is working on at her end and looks like there may be an answer in their inventory. Turns out that surgical masks they have a'plenty, but those don't have small enough pores to filter out viruses, only droplets like coughs. N95 masks have smaller filtration. We had a good phone conversation and several follow up emails. N100 masks are even better. Those are those ones we use when we're painting our Land Cruisers and have those charcoal cartridges.

Bottom line is,
(1) Surgical masks don't protect our front line health care workers, they don't have the smaller pore size needed for viruses.
(2) N95 Masks do, but they don't have enough of them. This nurse told me today that they only get one per worker per day.
(3) N100 Masks work also.

I am 3D printing N95 masks (it is a rigid design with a round spot for users to add the filtration membrane) as fast as I can. The design calls for the post-printing step of heating them and bending them into the shape of a mask. But as members of Rising Sun, please check your stash of regular paper masks and please donate those to hospitals. I can give contact info, email me at web@american3dprinting.net.

Recently a law changed to allow industrial N95 masks to be used in healthcare and carry the same liability protection. Because of that now the N95 masks used for construction or painting etc can all be used for hospitals. If anyone has them laying around then you can donate them to the hospitals. Hopefully the shortages are filled shortly with the new stocks anyway.

 

[Rzeppa]

Recently the FDA changed a law to allow industrial N95 masks to be used in healthcare and carry the same liability protection. Because of that now the N95 masks used for construction or painting etc can all be used for hospitals. If anyone has them laying around then you can donate them to the hospitals. Hopefully the shortages are filled shortly with the new stocks anyway.

That was actually congress, not FDA that did that. Was a week or two ago. FDA can not change laws, only congress can. In any case, the information is correct, N95 masks that were previously intended for industrial applications may now be legally sold to hospitals and other health care facilities without the seller being held liable. If anyone has a stash in their garage, please donate them! email me at web@american3dprinting.net and I can get you the contact info of my nurse friend at UC Health. I checked my garage and I don't have any new ones, just one used one.

 

[OHUZJ100]

Care to know one of the scariest reasons that has been floated for the creation of a digital dollar? Because the Fed admits that it would struggle to keep money in the banking system if there were negative rates. That problem goes away if the government gains control of all dollars that aren't in banking circulation. You cannot run from negative rates then.

I cannot see how this system would work though. The world would not be willing to convert over to a digital currency that could so easily be visibly debased. It would also require the world to turn in their dollars to handle the conversion. I cannot see how the US would maintain reserve currency status while doing this and most of our way of life is dependent on maintaining reserve status.

What your saying, would imply the banks including the fed have a solvency issue. Which, unless they are lying to the Public, we dont. Correct me if I'm wrong but the fed has never used negative interests so, what your saying may fall in line with speculation. I believe our current form of government could not sustain such a measure, and would be radically different as a result. I don't think it's gonna happen.

 

[DouglasVB]

Good news from COVID-19: The Real ID requirement has been postponed: https://www.usatoday.com/story/trav...ushed-back-trump-says-coronavirus/2905323001/

Bad news from COVID-19: Price gouging is a thing even in my little county: https://www.ksbw.com/article/covid-19-map-of-california-latest-coronavirus-cases-by-county/31900596

Other news from COVID-19: India is now shut down for three weeks. That's 1.3 billion people. https://www.foxnews.com/world/coronavirus-india-lockdown-train-network-halted-modi-save-yourself

Here in Monterey County, California we're up to 20 confirmed cases this morning but as of yesterday the county had only used a little under 300 tests since this all started. So that's about a 6-7% positive rate from people who are sick enough or rich enough to get tested. As of yesterday only one person has officially died in the county from COVID-19. Ignoring how we're not testing enough, that would make it a 5% fatality rate. Gotta love sparse data and small sample sizes

The reason y'all should care about Monterey County is that we produce 61% of leaf lettuce, 57% of celery, 56% of head lettuce, 48% of broccoli, 38% of spinach, 30% of cauliflower, 28% of strawberries, and a bunch of other produce consumed in America. So if y'all like fresh veggies you better hope that the farm workers don't start getting sick.

 

[DaveInDenver]

The numbers Douglas is using come from this article:

Food Insecurity: In the "Salad Bowl of America"

https://yaleglobalhealthreview.com/2016/12/21/food-insecurity-in-the-salad-bowl-of-america/