Corona Virus Panic

[Inukshuk]

This has been weighing very heavily on me and my wife for sometime now. I am self employed and I’m basically shut down, no work no money. I have already suffered a slow winter once again. Now my wife is facing lay-off when she gets her ok from doctor from her hip replacement that she was very fortunate to have done 4 weeks ago. By the way she is doing great. Highly recommend this to anyone with severe arthritis. Pain is gone. But again she will be out of a job and insurance. She works for a hotel and they are down to 10-15% occupancy, not sure how much longer they can stay open. So if anyone needs carpet cleaning when this is done I will certainly appreciate it.

As I just shared with Dan by text, his services are very much needed by society right now. He has steam cleaning equipment.
https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/how-to-clean-your-home-kill-viruses-4015489

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...hcare-settings#how-long-the-virus-can-survive
"When items cannot be cleaned using detergents or laundered, for example, upholstered furniture and mattresses, steam cleaning should be used."

We are going to talk about marketing. If any of you have or are such a resource, PM me.

 

[J1000]

If anyone in the Springs area wants some great take-out sushi my buddy started a new sushi restaurant business on Valentine's day just a month ago and now he's dealing with this shut down! It really is amazing sushi and other Japanese food. I'm trying to help him out but I can only eat so much sushi myself!

You can do door dash or just pick up in person.

Sushi Spot
(719) 358-7241
308 S 8th St Suite M
Colorado Springs, CO 80904

 

[FJCDan]

Thanks Daniel, good info to get out there. Dan

 

[DouglasVB]

For those of you who have been staying home for a week or more already, I *strongly* urge you to try on your jeans. It's been two weeks we've been sheltering in place out here in Monterey and I no longer fit into my pants.

 

[Inukshuk]

This has been weighing very heavily on me and my wife for sometime now. I am self employed and I’m basically shut down, no work no money. I have already suffered a slow winter once again. Now my wife is facing lay-off when she gets her ok from doctor from her hip replacement that she was very fortunate to have done 4 weeks ago. By the way she is doing great. Highly recommend this to anyone with severe arthritis. Pain is gone. But again she will be out of a job and insurance. She works for a hotel and they are down to 10-15% occupancy, not sure how much longer they can stay open. So if anyone needs carpet cleaning when this is done I will certainly appreciate it.

Dan's work rocks - its "essential" as it is sanitizing!

https://risingsun4x4club.org/xf/threads/what-have-you-done-to-your-rig-today.21646/page-57

 

[DouglasVB]

have been burning winter fat off nicely.

Wish I could make that happen here. Teleworking during the best time of the day during the week and then having the town still flooded with out-of-towners on the weekend cuts into my desire to get outside the house beyond walks around my neighborhood. You're definitely in a better position in Grand Junction to keep social distance while getting exercise vs here in Monterey.

I just ordered a second trainer so I can get both of us on our road bikes indoors. Biking outside here has also become harder because there are so many people getting back on their bikes after many years away. There are only a limited number of places to go -- basically one good recreation path -- everything else is either riding through a city with stop signs at every block or narrow high speed highways with limited or no shoulder. I found some light free weights in the garage I had forgotten about that I've brought inside and have been using so at least I'm getting a little lifting in.

But the struggle is real... if I'm sitting around, it becomes very easy to snack for 18 hours straight.

 

[PabloCruise]

Around here it's been a run on any staple that remotely might have carbs in it (e.g. there's not much rice, flour, pasta, crackers, beans, dairy to be found), not driving much and having nothing to do but hike and ride. I'm not eating much and what I do is basically paleo and exercising a ton. I've lost a decent amount of weight and have been burning winter fat off nicely. I'm in better shape for March than I can remember in a long time.

Rocking the BOB trailer! Those things are awesome.

 

[bh4rnnr]

Just read this this morning....

Enterprise

Applied for Target downtown yesterday for part time work with no luck. Start looking more this week.

 

[3rdGen4R]

Just read this this morning....

Enterprise

Applied for Target downtown yesterday for part time work with no luck. Start looking more this week.

Not sure if you’d be interested at working at King Soopers, but it seems they are hiring right away from what I read in the Denver Post.

 

[bh4rnnr]

Not sure if you’d be interested at working at King Soopers, but it seems they are hiring right away from what I read in the Denver Post.

Was going to start looking at that. Thanks.

 

[OHUZJ100]

So if anyone needs carpet cleaning when this is done I will certainly appreciate it.

I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Will you message me? I am fairly confident my mom would be interested in having her carpets cleaned.

 

[gungriffin]

Was going to start looking at that. Thanks.

Whole Foods and Amazon are hiring as I understand as well. They were paying a $15 minimum wage before. As I understand it, they added a temp $2 an hour to that and also are paying double for any overtime.

 

[DouglasVB]

It looks like the local beaches might close soon here (the ones that haven't already) because people can't figure out how to not be too close to each other: https://www.montereyherald.com/2020/03/30/covid-19-monterey-peninsula-cities-eye-closing-beaches/

We've stopped walking the three blocks down to the beach in the evenings because there are so many people out and about. We aren't riding our bikes on the rec path either because of the same issue.

 

[Jenny Cruiser]

Pretty much all you need to know if you still have questions on Covid from an ICU doc in NYC. So far, Operation Gotham has had fewer than a dozen patients. Resources from Ft. Hood are scheduled to be deployed elsewhere due to lack of actual need in NYC.

 

[DaveInDenver]

Pretty much all you need to know if you still have questions on Covid from an ICU doc in NYC. So far, Operation Gotham has had fewer than a dozen patients. Resources from Ft. Hood are scheduled to be deployed elsewhere due to lack of actual need in NYC.

His name is Dr. David Price of Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York City. He is a Fellow in the Pulmonary Medicine and Critical Care department. Point being, he's involved with this daily, the infection and disease are squarely his area of expertise.

 

[Jenny Cruiser]

His name is Dr. David Price of Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York City. He is a Fellow in the Pulmonary Medicine and Critical Care department. Point being, he's involved with this daily, the infection and disease are squarely his area of expertise.

This vid and the one you posted of the German pulmonologist are pretty much all this thread needed to contain.

 

[DaveInDenver]

This vid and the one you posted of the German pulmonologist are pretty much all this thread needed to contain.

His recommendations are what was being suggested back in January for public health - wash your hands often and don't lick door knobs - before it went hyperbolic and irrational.

 

[gungriffin]

Pretty much all you need to know if you still have questions on Covid from an ICU doc in NYC. So far, Operation Gotham has had fewer than a dozen patients. Resources from Ft. Hood are scheduled to be deployed elsewhere due to lack of actual need in NYC.

I will give this a listen, but this was also published 10 days ago. At that point, NYC did have things under control. They are in the process of potentially losing control at present. Hopefully the quarantine will mitigate the expansion of cases.The fact that NYC is getting refrigerator trucks to store the bodies is telling to me. NYC has had between 165 and 188 deaths in the past 24 hours alone (I am finding differing numbers). The real x factor in all of this is that due to a lack of testing, there are likely far more cases than we realize. It just isn't possible to know the exact numbers right now though.

The other big item that he is on point with is just be rational and handle any issues with a level head. Panic never improves any situation.

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronav...0200402-dhag2evsbvgihcy46ucdpeeoh4-story.html

 

[DaveInDenver]

Two Stanford professors (Dr. Eran Bendavid and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya) wrote a Wall Street Journal op-ed March 24th. The gist of their premise is initial conclusions have lacked sufficient data to fixate on worst case predictions.

https://fsi.stanford.edu/news/coronavirus-deadly-they-say

https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464

An interview from a couple of days ago where Dr. Bhattacharya discusses this reasoning further. He mentions the coming online of antibody tests just recently so valid population studies can now be conducted.

 

[DaveInDenver]

I will give this a listen, but this was also published 10 days ago. At that point, NYC did have things under control. They are in the process of potentially losing control at present. Hopefully the quarantine will mitigate the expansion of cases.The fact that NYC is getting refrigerator trucks to store the bodies is telling to me. NYC has had between 165 and 188 deaths in the past 24 hours alone (I am finding differing numbers). The real x factor in all of this is that due to a lack of testing, there are likely far more cases than we realize. It just isn't possible to know the exact numbers right now though.

The other big item that he is on point with is just be rational and handle any issues with a level head. Panic never improves any situation.

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronav...0200402-dhag2evsbvgihcy46ucdpeeoh4-story.html

I'm trying to find statistics, but what I can find it looks like New York City typically experiences about 55,000 deaths annually, which works out to around about 150 average deaths daily. I don't know what a typical early spring day looks like in NYC from a mortality aspect, though.

For example, this was a 2017 annual report and it says 54,319 deaths in the City that year.

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/vs/2017sum.pdf

So is that 165 to 188 over and above that normal average (e.g. NYC saw on the order of 300+ deaths that day, or at least a statistically greater number) or is that total inclusive of all other factors and a large percentage who died happened to also show corona RNA?

The article mentions other factors so it's probably some combination of the two. So I'm curious what will be classified as excess, meaning number of people who died that didn't have any other reason to believe they'd have been at risk. It alludes to it, 1,145 of the 1,562, e.g. 73% probably were already in poor health and would have passed regardless. The remaining 417 are left to assume are excessive but it doesn't say whether that includes traffic fatalities, accidental deaths, heart attacks, etc.