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I've been well served by the Geolander GO15 A/Ts on a 3rd Gen 4Runner. We recently put a set of Sumitomo Encounter A/Ts on the 2nd Gen Sequoia with very good results. Pretty sure both are three peak rated. Both of those were less expensive than Toyo, Nitto, Goodyears or BFGs at the time. Both have been good on wear, traction and toughness for mild off highway in load range E.
 

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I'm getting ready for a week-long trip to Death Valley (that's why I'm getting new tires -- probably will go with the Toyo tires).

Several areas we're planning to go into often shred tires (especially sidewalls). And Death Valley is hard to get spare tires in. I already have a sidewall patch kit and whatnot. But I'm thinking of keeping two of the old tires to have some extra spares. If I do that, then I either need to bring equipment to swap a tire off a rim or I need to find a couple of cheap rims to mount the old tires on. I'm not really sure what the best approach is here.

What do y'all think?

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I also am thinking about how to replace a valve stem on the road. There's a TPS sensor inside so I can't just use a Colby valve stem emergency replacement. I would need to pull the TPS sensor out (break the bead, etc.). Is there a "correct" way to do this? Do I have to break the bead and remove that TPS sensor and then throw in a spare valve stem?
 
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Does anyone have experience with adding UV protecting window tint that is not tinted?

I've become convinced that my truck's windows do not have much UV protection. After long drives in the sun, my 👸🏼 and I feel pretty cooked from the sun coming through the windows.

The Skin Cancer Foundation has a bunch of recommended films to put on the windows but I don't know which might be better or worse.

In the front seats, I don't want any tinting. We really prefer being able to see everything as if we were outside rather than looking through dark tint. In the back seats, we want dark tint so that people can't see into the back seats while the truck is parked.

There are a couple of tinting shops in our area but I'd rather go to them knowing more or less what I want to get rather than them selling me whatever they have laying around in their shops.

In other news, I ordered the Toyo Open Country AT III tires at the recently opened Americas Tires location in my area. Out the door with tax, install, and the tire replacement warranties, it was just over $1300. They'll be ready to install in a couple of days.

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In other, other news, I did an oil change and engine air filter change today. I've been doing the oil every 5k miles but this time it didn't look like it actually needed it. However, we're planning on a trip in December so it was time to do it. The air filter also didn't need it but I figured since I was in that asbestos zone not too long ago I might as well do that.
 
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I got the Toyo Open Country AT III tires put on yesterday. They ride really well. I'm quite happy with them and I'm looking forward to trying them out off pavement next week.

I'm thinking about upgrading my bumper with either a C4 bumper and crossmember delete kit and new front skid plate or a RCI Off Road bumper. Both have sales going the next few days. Still thinking about it though. But I really hate the current bumper.
 

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I have heard putting uv clear tint on the windshield itself is a gamechanger too for interior comfort. I have not looked too much into because I would not want to put it on my old pitted windshield and I don't want to replace that with a cheap chinese windshield that would crack soon after install.
 

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The new Toyo Open Country AT III tires performed great on the way to my parents for Thanksgiving. We took one of the back roads to get to their house which involved a little bit of fun:


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We went up in some snow and ice as well (photos later) last night and the tires performed okay with highway air pressure. The back end kept sliding around even at low speed (1st gear low range). I tried A Trac but that didn't seem to make a difference in this case. I think it's because I don't have much weight in the bed.

Now I'm looking at various Black Friday sales and am debating if I should be buying a few things:

  • GMRS radio -- Midland radios are 20% off and I have an additional 10% coupon (although maybe not on the radios I'm looking at). If I were to go with a different brand, I'd probably get a Wouxun KG-1000G Plus because it has a detachable faceplate that I could mount somewhere. I don't love the Midland solution of having the display in the microphone. I'm not really sure how much power I should get. Usually I go for the highest power because I'd rather use a lower setting and not need the higher power than need the higher power and not have it available.
  • Front bumper -- the current one sucks for clearance. I'm looking at the RCI line of bumpers and specifically the Gunnison or the Arapahoe. I also was looking at the C4 Rock Runner bumper with the cross member delete. I'm not sure if hacking off the front cross member and doing all the work to install the rock runner bumper will be worth the added approach angle or not. Regardless of which bumper I choose, fog lights will become an issue. The stock fog lights are actually quite good on the truck so I am thinking of making up some little pods to hang on whatever bumper I get. I also will get more LED fogs and I'm debating between white and amber.
  • I was looking at getting a hood mounted solar panel but @HoneyBadger just convinced me not to with this post.

Is there anything else for sale this weekend that I should be scoping out?
 

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I am looking at roof racks for my Tacoma with the following in mind:

  1. A place to mount several antennas (WeBoost antenna, 2m/70cm antenna, GMRS antenna, probably other antennas in the future, maybe a StarLink terminal at some point)
  2. Mount a forward-facing light bar
  3. Mount side-facing lights (I had this on my old 4runner and it was an absolutely AMAZING feature at night)
  4. Maybe mount an awning
I might throw some other stuff up there but aside from the awning I would like to keep it light weight on the roof. Maybe I'd put some luggage on top on occasion.

Wind noise is a consideration. I'm down at sea level most of the time so wind noise is much greater here than when we were living in Colorado.

Of course my first stop is the Gamiviti racks. I wonder if they're hella overkill though 😅 I'm not planning to carry an elephant on my roof. But having actual welded tubes rather than the typical aluminum sheet metal and 80/20 extruded aluminum crossbars screwed together with some tiny bolts is pretty nice.

I was a bit confused on the mounting hardware for these racks though. It looks like the mounting brackets are adjustable rather than fixed. Does that cause any issues with eventually vibrating lose and needing to be readjusted?

I was also wondering about the angle of the wind deflector and if that could be changed to match the windshield pitch for better air flow up and over the truck. Or if that really matters in this case. And could that deflector have a cutout for a light bar?

I've also been looking at the RCI Roof Rack which is a pretty standard sheet metal and extruded aluminum crossmember setup.

The Victory 4x4 rack appears to be basically the same except with some side punch-outs and a lower profile.

Dometic has their own roof rack which looks like all of the others.

Then there's this very cheap rack from Hooke Road which I assume is drop shipped from China at that price.

And the Pimseau Rack which seems to be like all the others.

And Westscot Designs is yet another copycat rack.

One thing I'm keenly interested in is the Gamiviti layover brackets. I wonder if that design could be taken further to tuck the awning down into the roof rack and behind a wind deflector.

The other option is to design my own or find some plans online, and send it to somewhere like Send Cut Send to be fabricated. Or I could DIY it with an angle grinder and some sheet metal punches in my garage. On my old 4runner I made my own roof rack from a cheapo Harbor Freight hitch basket and some ancient gutter rails, and that worked great aside from the wind noise.

Anyway that's the latest thoughts that I've been having.
 

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LongCruiser has 3 Gamiviti racks (disclaimer - it is a sponsorship but I'd be biased towards Tim anyway.) I have driven around for days at KOH with Blake Wilkey's Ultra 3 three-wheeler strapped up there and its held fine. The past four months an RTT and holding fine. Lights for several years.
The fairing is removable, which is nice. Standard is black polycarbonate but it would be easy enough to make your own using Tim's clips and clear polycarbonate. I don't notice ind noise but LongCruiser 1) is noisy and 2) has lotsa speakers.
The mounting feet are SOLID. You will have no problems. The adjustability is great.
Rack fabrication is here in CO. I prefer welded tubes.
Tim added custom tabs for my 50" Baja Designs light bar.
I also in general prefer a floor. I like the expanded metal of the Gobi. Tim offers a clip-in floor made of a plastic mat used (I was told be a fan) for oil well drill pad flooring. I have loaded the heck of it no issues.

My 1993 has had a prototype Gobi since 2011. I love it and I have had to re-weld 4 of the 8 feet. Bear in mind this first broke in Baja with 5 jerry cans, 4 recovery boards, and misc junk.

I know the owners of Sherpa. I do not know their racks well but they are CO made. If you want extrusion style you should check them out.

I did not know Dometic offered racks. I went to look. I zoomed. That is poor website building!!
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I suppose the other thing I could do is use this as an opportunity to finally learn how to weld by building my own Gamiviti-style rack.

I'd need to pick up a welder and associated accessories, and a tube bender and some sort of chop saw (I'm assuming my angle grinder won't be enough to trim lengths of tube to fit).

That could be a fun multi-day project in the new year... 🤔
 

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I had a nice time with my Taco over Christmas in the general Dinkey Creek, California area (where my parents live). My truck made it up the more challenging way to the top of Bald Mountain which I was quite impressed by. I even had occasion to use the A-Trac feature on one stretch where I couldn't keep all four wheels on the ground. I think the low rating on Trails Off-road under sells that trail if you've got a longer wheel base. I don't think I would have made it without damaging the oil pan and engine if I didn't have skid plates.

I definitely need to hack off the rear hitch and bumper, and give myself a better departure angle. That's a real limitation. I dragged my truck's butt over several obstacles and ripped more of the plastic bumper bits off along the way. I also need a better front bumper with good approach angle because I was grinding the current front bumper on the granite in many places. I used the skid plates extensively on that trail so I'm glad that I went with the full set and with the steel option 😅

We also explored yet another back way to get from the valley to my parents house. There are so many great little dirt roads from the low country up to high elevation that I've never explored before. And we went on a road down towards an old mine but got stopped by a tree we couldn't pull out of the way and I didn't have a chainsaw with me. We pulled four other trees out of the road before encountering the final boss. Next time I'll bring a chainsaw to cut my way through. That whole area was part of the Garnet Fire so having a big bar chainsaw will be a requirement the next 10 years at all of the dead timber comes down.

Here are a few photos and videos:


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Now that Highway 1 through Big Sur is open again after three years (you better drive it today if you are interested because there's no guarantee that it'll be open next month!), we went down to southern Big Sur and did the ridge road that heads south from Nacimiento-Fergusson Road. It gets right on the spine of the coast mountains.

The truck continues to perform well although there are lots of squeaks from I assume the bolt on armor. Nothing is loose as far as I can tell. I have gotten under and checked all the bolts. So I guess my truck just squeaks now.

The approach and departure angles continue to be annoying. I really should fix that.

Here are some videos and photos.


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I suppose the other thing I could do is use this as an opportunity to finally learn how to weld by building my own Gamiviti-style rack.

I'd need to pick up a welder and associated accessories, and a tube bender and some sort of chop saw (I'm assuming my angle grinder won't be enough to trim lengths of tube to fit).

That could be a fun multi-day project in the new year... 🤔
You could figure out the dimensions you want, and have a certain somebody cut and notch parts and ship them out to you... Then you could just weld everything together. The actual attachment to the truck would be the biggest challenge.
 

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You could figure out the dimensions you want, and have a certain somebody cut and notch parts and ship them out to you... Then you could just weld everything together. The actual attachment to the truck would be the biggest challenge.
Actually attaching it shouldn't be too bad. There are bolt holes in the roof from the factory so it's a matter of lining up for that.

I've been thinking about getting a 3D scanner so I can get an accurate mapping of the roof line. Then I could whip up a design in CAD and send it out for production... 😉
 

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We did the southern end of 20S05 yesterday in Big Sur because who knows when all of these roads might close again. It is a really interesting road because of how the vegetation goes through multiple shifts in a few miles. This is probably the most remote road in this part of the state which makes it cool, too. On one side of the road is Big Sur and the ocean a few miles away while on the other side is Fort Hunter Liggett.

I need to figure out how to address all the pinstriping on my truck. It's getting pretty bad especially after this road.


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I installed a Tackform slimline dash mount this morning. It's surprisingly solid and unobtrusive. I need to get a few more parts to position the phone cradle and DeLorme InReach mounts exactly where I want but all in all I'm quite pleased with it. In the future I'll be mounting radio faceplates there as well.

The whole thing took 30 minutes to install including finding my drill and bits. The videos online are decent but I would have benefited from some pictures showing the process.


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We had a wonderful time in Death Valley with the truck. We got back last week on Sunday and I still need to get the mud and dirt off the truck. We had the following weather on the trip:
  • Rain at Badwater (lowest point in North America)
  • Snow at the Chloride Cliffs and Greenwater
  • Sand storm at Salt Creek
  • 1.5 ft of snow and 6 inches of hoarfrost on South Pass (road to Saline Valley from Highway 190 goes over it)
  • Sun and clouds the rest of the time
  • And it was cold!
We rescued a stranded Brazilian couple at night on the West Side Road. They had driven their rental Ford Mustang down the road which is a 2WD high clearance road. They hit a rock near where Johnson Canyon Road intersects it and tore open the transmission pan like someone had taken a can opener to it. They didn't stop right away so we followed an oil streak for a half mile before we found them. And of course this was at night and on the first day the road had reopened so we were the last vehicle that was going that way until the next morning. They didn't have any food or water and there wasn't any cell reception of course. We used our DeLorme/Garmin InReach to contact Inyo County Dispatch who then got the park service to dispatch a ranger to come and pick them up. We also gave them food and water. At least it was in the mid 60s so they weren't going to freeze in their shorts and flipflops. The ranger came about an hour later to pick them up and take them back to their hotel at Furnace Creek and Miller Towing out of Lone Pine recovered the Mustang and took it to Las Vegas for the rental company to deal with.

We found an abandoned BMW SUV on Lippincott Pass Road about a mile from the intersection with Saline Valley Road. Luckily it was in a dry wash so we were able to crawl over some boulders and winch over some other boulders to get around the BMW. It had two shredded tires and destroyed rims and it looked like an A arm in the rear was destroyed. Oh and the suspension appeared destroyed. It had been abandoned a day or two before we found it. There was one other set of vehicle tracks going around it.

We also found an abandoned 3rd gen 4runner at South Pass on the Saline Valley Road. It was built and sitting on maybe 35" or 37" tires and had chains on the rear wheels to deal with the snow. It looked like it had only been abandoned a few hours and there were some other vehicle tracks so we think they had been in a group and were taken out by some of their friends to go get parts or whatever.

Once we got to Lone Pine and cell reception, we called in both the BMW and the 4runner. This time we talked with the California Highway Patrol dispatch in Bridgeport. Neither the BMW or 4runner had been reported before. I also talked with a friend in the SAR community out in Ventura County who talked with someone in DVNP who said they were dispatching a ranger to investigate the BMW.

A couple days later I heard from a friend of a friend in Lone Pine who talked with the tow truck company that deals with all the back country recoveries in Death Valley. Evidently the owner of the BMW had called the tow truck operator a day or so before we found the BMW and asked about getting it towed but didn't have the money to get it done. But then they evidently had died in a hotel in Lone Pine which got the coroner involved. It sounds like early next week they'll go out and recover the BWM and it'll go into the impound lot while they try to find next of kin and whatnot.

I haven't heard anymore about the 4runner so my assumption is whoever it belonged to came back and got it.

I did take some damage to the truck on this trip. The low clearance and bad approach angle really are not my friends. The engine skid plate looks like I've been bashing on it with a hammer and I caved in the steel winch bumper a little bit, and will need to pull it back out. But otherwise mechanically and from a comfort perspective the truck performed great. My 👸🏼 wants me to upgrade the truck though so we aren't bouncing off of every rock and smashing the nose into every waterfall 🤣

Photos are below of the trip. They go to various albums on insta with lots more photos.

The truck was clean when we started 🤣


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We went down Greenwater Road and up to the former site of Greenwater one day.


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We went out on Hole in the Wall Road and to the Keane Wonder Mine


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We had some fun in a sandstorm on the way to see some pupfish


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Badwater Basin has Lake Manley in it again with a bunch of water in the salt flat.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVHp4hjAQ6z/?img_index=1

We got up on the Chloride Cliffs one day and it snowed on us

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVHqcuogTUG/?img_index=11

We assed Teakettle Junction on our way to Devil's Racetrack. Evidently influencers are hiding sticker drops in some of the teakettles now but we didn't hear about that until after we had been through the area.

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Lippincott Pass Road has to be one of the most beautiful roads in the park. It's mostly one lane and reminds me a bit in sections of Scholfield Pass Road except the ravine you'll fall into if you roll off doesn't have any water in it normally.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVHrG1vgaZa/?img_index=3

Here's that abandoned BMW. It's been a big discussion point on a few different FB groups and other social media sites.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVHsP0NAcQB/?img_index=1

I had to winch myself around the back end of the BMW because I'm on stock suspension and tires, and got a little high centered on some boulders getting back onto the trail. If I wasn't worried about bashing into the back end of the BMW, I could have throttled out of the situation but the winch line helped jerk my front end around enough to make it comfortable and low risk. I've got the equipment so why not use it, right?

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVH19KGiUy3/?img_index=1

Snow in the Joshua tree forest coming off of South Pass and into Lee Flats was spectacular. For a couple of miles we had to keep moving because we were the lowest ground clearance vehicle to come through since the snow so we were sliding on our belly pan.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVHs3-HgdGs/?img_index=1

I am now unimpressed by OvErLaNdEr InFlUeNcErS who post photos in the Alabama Hills. Sure there are some harder roads there but 99% of what I've seen posted is on this smooth dirt road that we saw some sedans driving on.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVHuGEGgXQ2/?img_index=6

Trona Pinnacles is a bunch of tufa that formed under the old Searles Lake near Trona. It's really cool! Easy 2wd access although if you want to go between a few of the different areas, you'll need 4WD and high clearance.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVHuuIWAWKX/?img_index=6

We went over the Fish Pass Escape Trail between Searles Valley and Panamint Valley. This is the route that the Bennett-Arcane party took to escape Death Valley when their group of 49ers went the wrong way and got stuck in Death Valley for a month while a few of their party went for help.


We went up Goler Wash which is an incredible route through a slot canyon for the first mile and then opens up into a bigger canyon all the way to Barker Ranch where the Manson Family hid out and where they were captured. Goler Wash used to be an easy 2WD road. Now you need good approach and departure angles or some knowledge to get over the half dozen waterfall obstacles in the first mile of the trail. I'll post some dashcam video of that later. This is where I really banged up my engine skid plate and dented in my winch bumper. If I wasn't rocking stock suspension and tires and was on something reasonable like 33" tires with a small lift and had better approach and departure angles, it wouldn't have been an issue at all. But being on dinkey 31" tires and with the "stealth winch bumper" style of bumper... it was interesting. But we made it!


Entrance to the Barker Ranch. People in Inyo County still talk about when they caught the Manson Family and Charles Manson's two or three month stay in the Inyo County Jail.


On our way home to Monterey, we went through the Carizzo Plain National Monument which is absolutely glorious with flowers right now. If you're ever in this part of the country during wildflower season, it is well worth the detour to see the bloom.


This is what the truck looked like when we got it home. Today's task is to wash all the mud and alkalai dust off of the truck.


You can see how the front winch bumper caved in a bit when we took the hit on one of the waterfalls in Goler Wash.


It's a bit hard to tell in the photo but I'm so glad that I went with steel rather than aluminum for all of my skid plates.


I need to readjust the drivers side fender liner. Somewhere along the way it got dislodged and now it rubs the tire when I turn the wheel hard to the right. I'll work on that AFTER the truck has a bath.



And here's a couple of other fun non-truck photos/videos



There are a lot of other photos on my non-truck insta of all the cool stuff we saw out there. I used to go to the Death Valley region every winter as a kid for a few weeks around Christmas and it's been 15 years since the last time I drove through. This trip we went to some of the more remote parts of the park which was a ton of fun and I saw some places I had never been to before.

In terms of the truck, I have the following priorities:

  • Flatbed and box on the back. The current truck bed doesn't have enough space for all of the recovery gear and our stuff. And it gets hella dirty in there (I use plastic garbage bags to keep stuff from getting filthy)
  • Antenna mount points for the WeBoost I picked up a few months back and amateur radio antennas
  • Place to mount a Starlink terminal (every single LEO vehicle we saw out in Death Valley had a Starlink dish in their front windshield)
  • Better front bumper for better approach angles
  • Better departure angle which means Archive Garage spring hangers, new springs, new shocks and shock towers, moving the spare tire somewhere else, doing something different with the hitch, etc etc etc
  • Better front suspension. Maybe long travel or maybe the Marlin Crawler solution?
  • Bigger tires which means regearing the differentials and while I'm at it adding a locker to the front.
  • Some dual tcase solution (NW Fab? Marlin? Atlas?) for better crawl control
  • ALL THE RADIOS

So pretty much the same priorities as I had before the trip.

If we had a more built truck, we would have continued on from the Barker Ranch back into the south end of Badwater Basin but after the beating we took in Goler Wash we didn't want to push our luck on the purportedly harder trails further to the east. But the important thing is that a stock truck plus some skid plates, sliders, and a winch (and a driver who is only partially an idiot) was able to do everything that we did with minimal issues and nothing broke.

Here's our route map:

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And here is a closer view of the Death Valley portions:

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Later when I get around to processing some videos, I'll put them in a separate post.

If any of you are heading towards Death Valley, I'm happy to provide more detailed info on the various trails we took, things to see, etc. It's really a gorgeous place and is well worth a week or two of your time at least once in your life.
 

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I am getting ready to do the 30k extreme duty service on the Tacoma. My plan is to do all the fluids except coolant and maybe steering.

I've got both air filters, the oil filter, and the oil ready to go.

I need to get trans fluid, diff fluid, transfer case fluid, clutch fluid, brake fluid, and steering fluid if I decide to do that.

Does anyone have recommended brands for the above or is the generic stuff at NAPA good enough?

EDIT

I'm getting the tires rotated at America's Tries (where I bought the tires... Includes free rotations and balancing) and they say the front tires are cupping a tiny bit on the inside on both sides. I guess that means I need an alignment. Is that something I can do myself or do I need to take it somewhere?

SECOND EDIT (work in progress)

Here's what I'm looking at for the fluids.

TIRE WEAR INFO

This is the current position of the tires but they were just rotated. I assume they went front to rear and switched sides for the tires.

Front Pass inside to outside: 11 10 11
Front Driver inside to outside: 11 10 11
Rear Pass inside to outside: 10 11 11
Rear Driver inside to outside: 10 11 11

So it seems my (former rear) tires might have been a bit over-inflated and my (former front) tires were a bit toed in? The tires are usually around 32 to 34 PSI cold and I think the door jam says 30 PSI so I can reduce it a bit. When I drive, I see the PSI in the TPMS go up to 35-39 depending on how hot of a day it is and if I go from sea level to elevation.

I will need to learn more about front alignment. I'm also thinking about the alignment tabs and many people talking about replacing the stock ones with others such as the Marlin Crawler LCA Frame Brace Kit. I don't have the ability to weld (and I don't know how well enough to be welding on my frame) but there is a 4x4 fabricator shop in town that probably would do it. I suppose that I could also go over and have Marlin Crawler's fabrication shop do it, too. Or is this a reason to finally buy my own welding equipment and learn enough to do this job?
 
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