2010 Snow and Pizza Run Sat. Jan. 16th - Yankee Hill

Uncle Ben

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Not a lot of ice as of yesterday, chains will not help that much. Drifts are mildly crusted and crystalline so mometum and wheels speed will be your greatest assets and of course the higher your underpinnings are the better your chances. Drifts up towards the top are 3-5+ feet deep and plentiful. Choose your trail breaker well! Still two weeks before the S&P run so a lot can happen to change conditions! The trail should be broke before then but wind can erase tracks overnight. For an example, the large drift at the playground is over 6' tall this year and the crust will not support a person!
 
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Glad I can help. That's how mine was .Once you get a bumper/winch, I'm sure your thinking about one, it should all work it self out. I'm sure this thread could use a pic right now.

Yeah i know... PICS coming.... tough in a stuffed garage and in the middle of the night. Not sure about a bumper yet. but for now need to put money away.
 

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Things I've learned on snow runs:


If you have street tires on, you probably won't have much fun.

If you don't have tow points front and rear, Rudy will not pull you out. He's tired of wrecking straps.

Aired down means around 10psi, not 20psi.

Tire chains always cut through the crust. Sometimes plain tires will stay on top and do better. Chains are nice on ice however.

Work the wheel. Steer back and forth RAPIDLY to keep your sidewalls biting into fresh stuff and to leave a nice wide path for your rear tires. It might make the difference between makin' it and not.

If you can't crawl it, FLOOR IT!

Don't get get stuck pulling someone out with a strap! You won't be able to unhook the strap under tension.

Don't bother letting the 4wheelers go ahead in the snow. They often can't do any better than the trucks.

Keep your feet dry.
 

Uncle Ben

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Things I've learned on snow runs:


If you have street tires on, you probably won't have much fun.

If you don't have tow points front and rear, Rudy will not pull you out. He's tired of wrecking straps.

Aired down means around 10psi, not 20psi.

Tire chains always cut through the crust. Sometimes plain tires will stay on top and do better. Chains are nice on ice however.

Work the wheel. Steer back and forth RAPIDLY to keep your sidewalls biting into fresh stuff and to leave a nice wide path for your rear tires. It might make the difference between makin' it and not.

If you can't crawl it, FLOOR IT!

Don't get get stuck pulling someone out with a strap! You won't be able to unhook the strap under tension.

Don't bother letting the 4wheelers go ahead in the snow. They often can't do any better than the trucks.

Keep your feet dry.

Better advice is not possible! I will x2 everything that Rudy just stated! :thumb::thumb:

Also....

Bring more water than 1 bottle!

Just because your truck is warm it does not count for warm clothes!
 

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X3 and adding:

Keep your tires straight (hunting for traction wiggle ok).
 

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X4 with an addition, bring several sets of gloves, a shovel and a good attitude, you will be pulling line for yourself or somebody else.
 
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One thing i would add is momentum is key. Make sure you have the room in front of you to make a run at it. It is easier to start on somewhat stable ground then in the middle where it is deeper.
 
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I would leave the working of the wheel back and forth to when your not going anywhere or almost stopped. Then you will need to find the traction to keep going forward.
 

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Not a lot of ice as of yesterday, chains will not help that much. Drifts are mildly crusted and crystalline so mometum and wheels speed will be your greatest assets and of course the higher your underpinnings are the better your chances. Drifts up towards the top are 3-5+ feet deep and plentiful. Choose your trail breaker well! Still two weeks before the S&P run so a lot can happen to change conditions! The trail should be broke before then but wind can erase tracks overnight. For an example, the large drift at the playground is over 6' tall this year and the crust will not support a person!

was listining to you guys on the way home from the Cabin sunday, sounded like you were having fun:hill:

:beer::beer:
 

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I would leave the working of the wheel back and forth to when your not going anywhere or almost stopped. Then you will need to find the traction to keep going forward.

If you spin your tires until you have no more progress you will not be able to back up!
 
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If you spin your tires until you have no more progress you will not be able to back up!

Very true if you keep spinning. Once you stop forward momentum and try to wiggle it then don't dig down a hole then MOST of the time you can back out and the working the wheel back and forth can help here also. There is no snow to push going backwards since it is all packed under the front. As with all advice it is just that.... advice. Every situation is different and conditions are different also. Then you add the vehickle and what someone does is or does not work for them, wheelbase, weight, width, tire, power and so one is always different. But the one advice that is always a smart one is don't venture out alone. That way if you can't back out then your buddies are there to help. Sorry hate to get chatty it was just me trying to give helpful insight and advice. :thumb::hill::cheers: I will be quiet now.....
 

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Very true if you keep spinning. Once you stop forward momentum and try to wiggle it then don't dig down a hole then MOST of the time you can back out and the working the wheel back and forth can help here also. There is no snow to push going backwards since it is all packed under the front. As with all advice it is just that.... advice. Every situation is different and conditions are different also. Then you add the vehickle and what someone does is or does not work for them, wheelbase, weight, width, tire, power and so one is always different. But the one advice that is always a smart one is don't venture out alone. That way if you can't back out then your buddies are there to help. Sorry hate to get chatty it was just me trying to give helpful insight and advice. :thumb::hill::cheers: I will be quiet now.....

:thumb::thumb:
 

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you guys are making me jealous talking about it because I don't think I'll be able to go :(
 
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Your Northern Buddies

Hi all,
Is there going to be space for a few trucks from the Horsetooth 4 Wheelers again this year? I've had a couple guys call and ask me when your trip is going to be. We had a blast last year!
 

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you guys are making me jealous talking about it because I don't think I'll be able to go :(

Sounds like this run is going to be too crowded for my liking, so I'm not planning on it either, but if you want to go snowbashing sometime soon, let me know. :thumb:
 

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we might have to plan something for some time this winter ;)
 
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Glad I can help. That's how mine was .Once you get a bumper/winch, I'm sure your thinking about one, it should all work it self out. I'm sure this thread could use a pic right now.

may not be the right spot for this but here ya go. PIC is ok for a cell phone. need to clean her up and take some good shots when i have time. i will have to update a personal page also. thanks again. :cheers:
 

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X5 On the advice side, make sure your transfer case is engaged. Damned if that didn't get me last time. Wheels should be locked too, which hasn't happened to me......yet.
 

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may not be the right spot for this but here ya go. PIC is ok for a cell phone. need to clean her up and take some good shots when i have time. i will have to update a personal page also. thanks again. :cheers:

Any thread is a good spot to showing off your toy, looks great! Most likely will miss the snow run but look forward to seeing your rig and others in the trip's report section.
 

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Hi all,
Is there going to be space for a few trucks from the Horsetooth 4 Wheelers again this year? I've had a couple guys call and ask me when your trip is going to be. We had a blast last year!

You guys are always invited and welcome to any of our runs. It was a pleasure running with your crew last year. As long as you don't mind dealing with a large group and uncertain trail conditions.

Perhaps someone else would be willing to setup up another run in January as an option with less rigs. Hint hint.;)
 
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