1973 FJ40 build

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Kindof a hijack, but what is this about an FJ40 bellhousing? Is the 60 series bellhousing a different shape that interferes with stuff?

I would look at the frame and axles and see how much rust is on them. If they look pretty bad I might consider buzzing them down and painting them, except it's hard to do with the body on and the sooner this truck gets running the better (i.e. no removing the body) so you don't run out of gas on the project. I'd probably leave it unless it's really bad.

If it were me, I would do a 2F-4spd-3spdcase combo if only for the ebrake thing at the moment, and Hatfield mentioned something about 4spd guts inside 3spd case, I don't know what that's about. The t-case isn't *all* that hard to remove later if you feel you want to go with split case.

Martin's probably right while it's out you might as well separate everything, replace rear main and clutch, then I guess it's a wash whether to stab it all as a unit or piece it together as you put it back in the truck. I guess I would take the shifters off and stab the engine, tranny and t-case all at once.

If you have good u-joints for the driveshafts, a retube/relength is about $110 give or take at Englewood Driveshaft. If you don't have the u-joints/old driveshaft it's obviously going to cost to get those.

The engine ran when it got pulled from the 60 so I would *maybe* desmog it if it hasn't already been done but I would try to get it running and then decide if the carb needs to be rebuilt or not. Like has been said Jim C. is out a few months, you could try Mark A. or a couple other places if you really wanted it done.

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The engine has all the emissions installed. The parts removed were the stock power steering pump and bracket. Ige used those for her 60. There are 5 or 6 four speed FJ40 bell housings somewhere you can have for free if you can find them. If I had to guess, they are in the back of the 64LV at Zepp's place. If they are in the garage, I might be able to find one.
 

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Kindof a hijack, but what is this about an FJ40 bellhousing? Is the 60 series bellhousing a different shape that interferes with stuff?

The deal is in the FJ60 there are no rear motor mount brackets attached to the bell housing. The 60 bell housing may not be threaded for the 40 mounting brackets. If you look at the picture I posted up in this thread, you'll see the mounting holes on the side of the bell housing. IIRC, the FJ60 doesn't use those, it relies on a cross member under the tranny/transfer case for rear support. Take a look at your bell housings. If the holes are there then I've been leading you astray.
 

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Here are the frame comparisons. The first pic is the FJ40 frame. Note the rear mount on the PS, part #141. The second pic is the FJ60 frame. Part #150 is the cross member. Could that be adapted for the FJ40? I don't know. :D
 

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I'm not sure that would work... I'd think you'd need at least 3 holes. I think the mid late 70's had 4 iirc. You could always bolt the two and drill through and use a nut on the other end.

Might be easier to use a fj40 bellhousing though. You can replace the rear main and clutch and tranny input shaft seal too while it's out and easier :hill: Bummer. I thought it might work..
 

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Cool to see what you're working with. Here's what I would do:

I would get that 4 speed bellhousing and replace the stuff Wes just mentioned, clutch, rear main, etc..

Strip off all that emissions stuff including the smog pump, air rail, vacuum lines, egr stuff.. Remove the ac compressor since you won't need it.

Might consider picking up an earlier FJ40 two barrel Aisan to make the de-smog cleaner (and your carb looks like it's rusty inside and 60 carbs are a pain in the rear anyway).

If you can get the '74 transfer case that will mate to the 4 speed and will have the correct parking brake drum on it, even better.

I think once you have the engine cleaned up, dropping it in will be simple. :thumb:
 

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Thanks for the voice mail, I wil try and find a time to run up to Kittridge and scope out the LV at Zepp's. Maybe early next week? Thanks again.

T


The engine has all the emissions installed. The parts removed were the stock power steering pump and bracket. Ige used those for her 60. There are 5 or 6 four speed FJ40 bell housings somewhere you can have for free if you can find them. If I had to guess, they are in the back of the 64LV at Zepp's place. If they are in the garage, I might be able to find one.
 

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The plan for now is to continue making the engine bay all purty, then tackle the rear main and clutch and tranny input shaft seal while I work on finding the 4 speed 40 bellhousing. Anyone know of any good writeups on the rear main and the seals? Or just RTFM? :) Thanks!

T


...You can replace the rear main and clutch and tranny input shaft seal too...
 

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I just take shit apart and put it back together. If my short attention span or memory is eclipsed then I RTFM.

:lmao: That was funny Wes, that sounds like me! :lmao:
 

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hmm....so which manual should I have before I dive in? 80's 2f manual?
 

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The plan for now is to continue making the engine bay all purty, then tackle the rear main and clutch and tranny input shaft seal while I work on finding the 4 speed 40 bellhousing. Anyone know of any good writeups on the rear main and the seals? Or just RTFM? :) Thanks!

T

OK....I'll come clean....I have a 78 FJ-40 bellhousing I'll part with....
 

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you da man! Actually, I think Boulder Cruiser could use this sooner than me, but I could pick it up if I drop by lfd270ben's place to pick up parts for people...

Thanks!!!

T



OK....I'll come clean....I have a 78 FJ-40 bellhousing I'll part with....
 

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you da man! Actually, I think Boulder Cruiser could use this sooner than me, but I could pick it up if I drop by lfd270ben's place to pick up parts for people...

Thanks!!!

T

could you drop off my glovebox door and birf at Uncle Ben's house if you do that?
 

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could you drop off my glovebox door and birf at Uncle Ben's house if you do that?

dropped it in the mail yesterday...been a little crazy around here, sorry.


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help appreciated with engine on Saturday

OK, finally this Saturday I hope to drop the 2F into the 40 and could use help of any kind...opinions, wrench help, beer drinking help, sarcasm, taunting, etc etc. I will be starting in the late morning changing the bellhousing and probably changing the rear main seal, then trying to wrestle the whole thing into the 40. I have the front clip and 1 fender off, and I have Rezarf's cherry picker, so that should help. I think Ricardo (welcome to the club!) and Subzali were planning on dropping by late in the afternoon. Anyone else want to drop by for beers and pizza to help or just be amused at my swearing ability, feel free. Call for the address. (near University and Hampden)

Thanks!! Hopefully you will see this bad boy at a meeting some day... :thumb:

T

Thanks to all who have given me parts, tech help, encouragement, etc

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