Moab trails closed.

[timmbuck2]

 

[RossM]

i see they fail to mention their partnership with the sierra club...

Brand Partnerships

www.sierraclub.org

Team, I beg your pardon for being ignorant of the answer to my question. I’d like for your help to compile a list of where to buy from and what product lines or companies to support so we put our money into hands that help and support our hobby while helping protect our ability and freedom to access and use it.

If we need to start another thread Mods, please move. I figured making a list of where to go versus where to avoid might help make shopping easier for all of us.

So, where we do we go to spend money to avoid it going to people and places who are against us?

Sorry for the slight detail everyone.

 

[Notyourmomslx450]

good listen with Ben from Blue Ribbon and Tyler from Morflate

440: 1/3 Of The Trails In Moab GONE! (Blue Ribbon Coalition) - Snail Trail 4x4

Almost 1/3 of the Trails in Moab are now closed. Tyler sits down with Ben Burr from Blue Ribbon Coalition to talk about the trails we lost.

www.snailtrail4x4.com

 

[Hulk]

 

[Notyourmomslx450]

Dang! That's a big chunk of change!

 

[Crash]

How is Rising Sun going to respond?

 

[J1000]

Utah Public Lands Alliance is matching the first $50k donated, we should definitely contribute something!

Fight Back to Keep our Roads and Access Rights

It is with a heavy heart that we bring you the distressing news from Moab today—a destination cherished by many for its rugged trails and breathtaking landscapes. A staggering 317…

utahpla.com

 

[Notyourmomslx450]

How is Rising Sun going to respond?

Most likely not w/ 25k.
We did donate a big chunk of our proceeds from Cruise Moab to BRC.

I’m sure we can start a drive within the club as well.

 

[J Kimmel]

Most likely not w/ 25k.
We did donate a big chunk of our proceeds from Cruise Moab to BRC.

I’m sure we can start a drive within the club as well.

Start a fund I’ll donate

 

[nakman]

How is Rising Sun going to respond?

So every year we have a Philanthropy Committee that each year decides where to allocate the excess money received from our events. And this year we had two profitable events, ColoYota Expo and Cruise Moab. Volunteering for that committee will be an agenda item for the November meeting, and into the following week on the forum, again just as in years past. Then the committee decides what to do with the funds, and presents back to the club what they decided in December. You can look through the member's only area of the forum to see prior year efforts.. and if you're a member, and you want to have a voice in this process, I would strongly suggest this is something you volunteer to participate in. Just know that actual work will be expected, including some vetting of other organizations, open consideration of new suggestions, and learning some history involving past donations.

And yes last year, the big chunk of this went to BRC, for the same effort. I'm guessing the same would happen again. And I suspect we can speed up the timeline of this to capitalize on the urgency of some of the matching opportunities, though it looks like there's a lot of time to still get in on the Utah Public Lands offer that Jimmy posted above.

 

[Crash]

Thanks for your reply, Tim. The sped up timeline is what my question was in regards to, being already aware of the fantastic work the philanthropy committee does and has done. I applaud its efforts. Right now, I’m interested in maximizing my donations to the fight against land closures and if the club is getting behind a particular group that is where I will direct them.

 

[nakman]

Team, I beg your pardon for being ignorant of the answer to my question. I’d like for your help to compile a list of where to buy from and what product lines or companies to support so we put our money into hands that help and support our hobby while helping protect our ability and freedom to access and use it.

If we need to start another thread Mods, please move. I figured making a list of where to go versus where to avoid might help make shopping easier for all of us.

So, where we do we go to spend money to avoid it going to people and places who are against us?

Sorry for the slight detail everyone.

Ross, we started down that path with this year's first Expo event. Part of vendor registration involved answering some questions, geared towards supporting keeping trails open.. here is the result: https://coloyotaexpo.com/2023-vendors-clubs/

not a perfect process, and certainly not comprehensive, but if nothing else a step in the right direction, that being more alignment with the club and the events it hosts, and the interests of its members and greater OHV community, including local businesses.

 

[RossM]

Thank you for this list Tim.

I am speaking more towards clothing and other outdoor gear we all use for camping or element protection. Jackets, shirts, sleeping bags, hats and other camping equipment. From my perspective it seems most companies who serve our needs and interests are multinational corporations who appear nice (doing good things with their monies and influence) on their outer facing surface who are actually more so doing things we don’t align with regarding extreme environmentalism, closures, etc.

It’d be nice to be able to connect our community with companies that are more in alignment with us regarding outdoors and management of said versus closing everything and calling it conservation and or management of lands.

Hope this makes sense.

 

[nuclearlemon]

These are the businesses that joined the greater canyonlands national monument petition to obama years ago. red wing surprised me considering they are big in the logging industry in minnesota. camp chef had signed on until someone (i think from blue ribbon) contacted them and they asked to be taken off the list after that.

Outdoor Industry Association
Boulder, CO
Frank Hugelmeyer
President and CEO

Black Diamond Equipment
Salt Lake City, UT
Peter Metcalf
CEO and Lead Founder

Backcountry.com
Park City, UT
Jill Layfield
CEO

Eastern Mountain Sports
Peterborough, NH
Will Manzer
CEO

Petzl
Clearfield, UT
Roody Rasmussen
Senior Vice President

Western Spirit Cycling
Moab, UT
Ashley Korenblat
CEO

Patagonia
Ventura, CA
Casey Sheahan
President

PROBAR LLC
Salt Lake City, UT
Jules Lambert
President

Gregory Mountain Products
Salt Lake City, UT
Billy Kulczycki
President

Mountain Hardwear
Richmond, CA
Topher Gaylord
President

Canyon Voyages Adventure
Company
Moab, UT
Don and Denise Oblak
Owners

Rim Tours
Moab, UT
Kirstin Peterson
Owner

Teva
Goleta, CA
Joel Heath
President

Moki Mac
Green River, UT
Bob Quist
Owner

Moab Cliffs and Canyons
Moab, UT
Brett Sutteer
Owner

Jansport
Morland, KS
Skip Yowell
Co-Founder

Lost River Clothing
Company
Moab, UT
Dave Knowles
President

Skinny Tire Events --
Road Cycling in Moab
Moab, UT
Beth Logan
Owner

Red Wing Shoes
Red Wing, MN
Bill Sweasy
Chairman/CEO

Canyonlands Field Institute
Moab, UT
Karla VanderZanden
Director

Miguel’s Baja Grill
Moab, UT
Dave Bodner
Owner

Camelbak
Petaluma, CA
Sally McCoy
President and CEO

Magpie Adventures
Moab, UT
Maggie Wilson
Owner

Ekletica Cafe
Moab, UT
Julie Fox
Owner

Prana
Carlsbad, CA
Theodosakis Beaver, Founder
Scott Kerslake, CEO

Moab Destination
Management
Moab, UT
Fiona Raison
President

Moab Coffee Roasters
Moab, UT
Jana Wilson
Owner

Osprey Packs
Mill Valley, CA
Michael Pfotenhauer
Owner and Founder

Horny Toad Activewear
Santa Barbara, CA
Kate Larramendy
Design Director

With Gaia Design
Moab, UT
Kalen Jones
Owner

Marmot Mountain, LLC
Rohnert Park, CA
Mark Martin
President

North Face
San Leandro, CA
Ann Krcik
Director Outdoor Participation

Nichols Expeditions
Moab, UT
Chuck and Judy Nichols
Owners

American Recreation
Products
Boulder, CO
Brett Jordan
CEO

Nikwax Waterproofing
Seattle, WA
Chas Fisher
President

White Horse Residential
Homes
Moab, UT
Mark Griffith
Managing Partner

Bergans USA, LLC
Longmont, CO
Patry Loomis
President

The Conservation Alliance
Bend, OR
John Sterling
Executive Director

Desert Bistro
Moab, UT
Karl and Michelle Kelley
Owners

Aspen Skiing Company
Aspen, CO
Mike Kaplan
President/CEO

Backbone Media LLC
Carbondale, CO
Nate Simmons
Partner and Founder

High and Wild
Castle Valley, UT
Jay Smith
Owner

Adventure Bound River
Expeditions
Grand Junction, CO
Tom Kleinschnitz
President

Ute Mountaineer
Aspen, CO
Bob and Ruth Wade
Owners

Far Out Expeditions
Bluff, UT
Vaughn Hadenfeldt
Owner/Guide

Loki Outerwear
Grand Junction, CO
Seth Anderson
Co-Owner

Whitewater West
Grand Junction, CO
Pete and Monica Atkinson
Owners

Bryce Valley KOA
Kampground
Cannonville, UT
John Holland
Owner

4 Corners Riversports
Durango, CO
Andy Corra
President

Pine Needle
Mountaineering
Durango, CO
Jeremy Dakan
Owner

Imlay Canyon Gear
Mt. Carmel Junction, UT
Nolan Jones
President

Mountain Waters Rafting
and Adventure Co.
Durango, CO
James Wilkes & Dan Bechtel
Owners

Deer Hill Expeditions
Mancos, CO
Douglas and Beverly Capelin
Owners and Founders

Red Desert Adventures
Springdale, UT
Eric Draper
Owner

Kling Mountain Guides
Durango, CO
Josh Kling
Owner

Open Sky Wilderness
Therapy
Durango, CO
Aaron Fernandes
CEO

Wasatch Touring
Salt Lake City, UT
Charlie and Dwight Butler
Owners and Founders

Verde PR and Consulting
Durango, CO
Kristin Carpenter-Ogden
CEO and Founder

Venture Snowboards
Silverton, CO
Klemens and Lisa Branner
Owners

The Family Outing
Murray, UT
Richard Luke
Owner

New Belgium Brewing
Ft. Collins, CO
Jenn Vervier
Director, Strategic Development
and Sustainability

Neptune Mountaineering
Boulder, CO
Gary Neptune
Owner and Founder

International Mountain
Equipment
Salt Lake City, UT
Scott Carson
Owner

La Sportiva
Boulder, CO
Jonathan Lantz
President

Scarpa
Boulder, CO
Kim Miller
CEO

Trio Restaurant Group
Salt Lake City, UT
Mikel Trapp
Owner

GTHI
Boulder, CO
Malcolm Daly
Founder

The Access Fund
Boulder, CO
Brady Robinson
Executive Director

SOAR Communications
Salt Lake City, UT
Chip Smith
President

Stohlquist WaterWare
Alamosa, CO
Jim Stolhquist
President

Outside Adventure Film
School
Boulder, CO
Michael Brown
Founder

Outdoor Utah Adventure
Guide
Salt Lake City, UT
Red Oelerich
Editor-in-Chief

Veterans Expeditions
Boulder, CO
Nick Watson
Army Ranger

Fishpond Inc.
Denver, CO
John Land Le Coq
CEO and Founder

Excalibur Distribution/
DMM Inc.
Sandy, UT
Steve Petro
CEO

American Alpine Club
Golden, CO
Phil Powers
Executive Director

Stonewear Designs
Louisville, CO
Kitty Bradley
President

SNOCRU
Sundance, UT
Ed Lewis
Founder

NRS
Moscow, Idaho
Bill Parks
Founder

Chalk Bag Specialist
Pocatello, ID
San Krieg
Owner

Quality Bicycle Products
Ogden, UT
Steve Flagg
President

Asana Climbing
Boise, ID
Jamey Sproul
Founder

Wild Iris Mountain Sports
Lander, WY
Jennifer Barrett
Owner

Alpine Sports
Ogden, UT
Peggie Chambers Ambrey
Owner

Oceanmedix.com, LLC
Wilson, WY
Dennis Emory
Co-Founder

The Base Camp
Billings, MT
Scott Brown
Owner

Thompson Manufacturing Inc.
Clearfield, UT
Rock Thompson
President

Outdoor Research
Seattle, WA
Dan Nordstrom
President

International Mountain
Guides
Ashford, WA
Phil Ershler

Logan Outdoor Products/
Camp Chef
Logan, UT
Ty Measom
President

Far Bank Enterprises
Bainbridge Island, WA
Travis Campbell
CEO

Mountain Gear
Spokane Valley, WA
Paul Fish
President

Ultralight Adventure
Equipment
Logan, UT
Chris McMaster
Owner

Peak Sports
Corvalis, OR
Jeff Katz
Owner

Montrail
Richmond, CA
Topher Gaylord
President

Treasure Mountain Inn
Park City, UT
Andy Beerman
Owner

Mountain Tools
Carmel, CA
Larry Arthur
CEO and Lead Founder

Mammoth Mountaineering
Supply
Mammoth Lakes, CA
Dave Talsky
President

Christoph & Company
Park City, UT
Lesley Christoph
President

Wilson’s Eastside Sports
Bishop, CA
James Wilson
Owner

Desert Rock Sports
Las Vegas, NV
Steve Mallory
Owner

Grassroots Outdoor Alliance
Park City, UT
Roanne Miller
President

Midwest Mountaineering
Minneapolis, MN
Rod Johnson
Owner and Founder

River Sports Outfitters
Knoxville, TN
Laura Jones
General Manager

Burton Snowboards
Burlington, VT
Jake Burton Carpenter
Donna Carpenter
Owners

Jetboil, Incorporated
Manchester, NH
Perry Dowst
President and CEO

Mammut Sports Group
Shelbourne, VT
Bill Supple
CEO

Penguin Brands
Greater Boston Area, MA
Donna Williams
SR Sales Manager

River Runner Outdoor
Center
Columbia, SC
Guy Jones
President

Pack and Paddle
Lafayette, LA
Rebecca Williams
Owner

Pack Rat Outdoor Center
Fayettville, AR
Carolyn Crook
Owner

Rabbit Mountain
Miami, FL
Edward Gerety
President

Equip
Derbyshire, UK
Matt Gowar
CEO

Exped
Zurich, Switzerland
Heidi Brun
CEO

 

[Hulk]

Jeez, that's like every well-known outdoor company. I've given money to all these companies over the years:

• Black Diamond Equipment
• Camelbak
• Gregory Mountain Products
• Jansport
• Jetboil, Incorporated
• Mammut Sports Group
• Marmot Mountain, LLC
• New Belgium Brewing
• Nikwax Waterproofing
• North Face
• Osprey Packs
• Outdoor Research
• Patagonia
• Penguin Brands
• Petzl
• Prana
• Red Wing Shoes
• Scarpa
• Teva

Today, I am wearing an L.L.Bean t-shirt and a pair of Asolo shoes while drinking from a YETI tumbler. At least I am not supporting land closures right at this very moment.

 

[J1000]

Jeez, that's like every well-known outdoor company. I've given money to all these companies over the years:

• Black Diamond Equipment
• Camelbak
• Gregory Mountain Products
• Jansport
• Jetboil, Incorporated
• Mammut Sports Group
• Marmot Mountain, LLC
• New Belgium Brewing
• Nikwax Waterproofing
• North Face
• Osprey Packs
• Outdoor Research
• Patagonia
• Penguin Brands
• Petzl
• Prana
• Red Wing Shoes
• Scarpa
• Teva

Today, I am wearing an L.L.Bean t-shirt and a pair of Asolo shoes while drinking from a YETI tumbler. At least I am not supporting land closures right at this very moment.

Unfortunately YETI is a member of The Conservation Alliance which directly supports SUWA and other groups: https://conservationalliance.com/members/

 

[Cruisertrash]

No comment, just posting some memories from that area on a trail that I believe is going to close.

 

[DouglasVB]

The irony is they substantially rely on vehicle-based camping so they undercutting themselves especially in this area with what seems like a lot of dispersed camping is going to disappear. It's not just Jeeps and SxS but every yahoo in a Subaru out hiking that's gonna have to wake up and smell the turd that this is.

That makes me wonder (but not actually search the Internet) how many unique people use the area that's being closed down. And then compare that against the number of people that might do the various activities impacted but who don't go to the Moab area.

Is it 5% of their customer base impacted? 25%?

 

[nuclearlemon]

Jeez, that's like every well-known outdoor company. I've given money to all these companies over the years:

Yup, SUCKS. like i said in the other thread, the who's who of outdoor equipment is who is against us

instead of camelback, choose tacticon (a veteran owned company) or sourcetacticalgear.com (made in isreal and used by isreali forces)

for clothing, try hunting store brands like cabela's red head. also off grid surplus.

 

[J1000]

The irony is they substantially rely on vehicle-based camping so they undercutting themselves especially in this area with what seems like a lot of dispersed camping set to disappear. It's not just built Jeeps and SxS but every Chaco wearing yahoo in a stock Subaru and 4Runner out camping and hiking that's gonna have to wake up and smell the turd that this is.

To that point the silence from Jeep, Toyota, Ford, Land Rover, etc is deafening.