GMRS Options?

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Doing more research this is pretty cool. Of course you're doing a ferry but if someone was driving the hams have worked on continuous repeater coverage.

https://www.yara.ca/repeaters/repeaters_highways.htm

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And the actual Alaskan repeaters from the source.

https://www.alaskarepeaters.kl7.net/index.php
 

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This is great stuff, Dave. Thanks for doing the research.
 

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I need a major refresher on my radio knowledge. Have not used a repeater for over a decade. Ours down here was down for a long time. My understanding it’s up again. Don’t even remember how. My radio sits on 146.460 plus what ever other is on the other band and I press the button to talk.
 

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You have 7 around Durango.

The Colorado Connection (147.345 MHz) is still shown as down on Repeater Book but it should be operational.


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The DMR (digital mode) radio is offline, power issues, but there is one near Mancos that should be functioning.
 

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Does anyone have experience with non-Midland GMRS mobile radios?


In full disclosure, my comoany (Alamosa Antenna) was acquired into GME.

I've toured their factories in 🇦🇺. They make radios for Australian defense forces; same stuff reprogrammed for GMRS now. Not China. Digital processing, even in their antennas. Get regular software and firmware updates like your phone. Built in GPS when the FCC says yes.

Just an option. IMNSHO the superior one. Happy to discuss more if you'd like.

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In full disclosure, my comoany (Alamosa Antenna) was acquired into GME.

I've toured their factories in 🇦🇺. They make radios for Australian defense forces; same stuff reprogrammed for GMRS now. Not China. Digital processing, even in their antennas. Get regular software and firmware updates like your phone. Built in GPS when the FCC says yes.

Just an option. IMNSHO the superior one. Happy to discuss more if you'd like.

I would.
I spent some hours with them at Overland Expo in August. Tony and I went for a LongCruiser cruise with him driving. Their US office is going to be here in Lakewood, Colorado. Slee Offroad is probably going to be a dealer.
I need to reach back out to them. Maybe we can hop on a call this weekend and I can understand the tech more. Maybe we could do a Zoom and anybody in the club who wants to jump on?
 

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Their US office is going to be here in Lakewood, Colorado. Slee Offroad is probably going to be a dealer.

Yes on both! Slee has them for sale and viewing in their showroom now.

I Maybe we can hop on a call this weekend and I can understand the tech more. Maybe we could do a Zoom and anybody in the club who wants to jump on?

Let's do that! Late notice, but maybe Sunday?
 
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Yes but thank you for that public service announcement.

Up until now I was thinking about using that mounting solution for a domestic radio. @DaveInDenver brought up some ventilation related warnings though for the radio being buried into the center console.
 

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@Pskhaat is there any chance of getting a radio mount for a 3rd Gen taco?

I've been stumped on how to mount radios in my truck. There just aren't any "it looks factory" options that I've found.
 

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@Pskhaat is there any chance of getting a radio mount for a 3rd Gen taco?

I've been stumped on how to mount radios in my truck. There just aren't any "it looks factory" options that I've found.

What do you mean specifically for radio mount? GME takes a bit of a different approach. Like most, the spearkermic has a CAT5/6 data connection to its base and comes with wiring extensions. The base is almost always mounted away from view (zero reason to have it mounted where it interferes). The one shown is IP67 so mounted often below the seat, behind dash, or in glove compartment. It does not require open-air mounting.

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You can run the cable through wherever you want (headliner, dash, console) and we have a vehicle-specific pass-through 1761940553118.png for a dash blank. Then of course the speaker mic can plug in/out through there.
 

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Up until now I was thinking about using that mounting solution for a domestic radio. @DaveInDenver brought up some ventilation related warnings though for the radio being buried into the center console.
The one shown is IP67 so mounted often below the seat, behind dash, or in glove compartment. It does not require open-air mounting.
These statements cannot be blanket yes or no.

You DO need to allow airflow around ALL radios. Sorry Scott, but that's physics. Radios and really all electronics can overheat pretty easily in a truly air tight container. You can prove this to yourself. Put an HT into a Tupperware with all it's surfaces air gapped from the sides. It'll get hot even just on RX.

So how much air flow is the devil in the details. These radio I believe are 5W. That's important to know. Dealing with 5W is like the heat of a handheld instead of 25 or 50 watts people may be used to with ham mobiles.

Also duty cycle matters. Radios generate significantly more heat transmitting than receiving, so if you're a talker or have your APRS set to beacon every 30 seconds at full power you need more air flow. I had to augment my 5W data radio's heat sink. This radio was intended for very periodic data bursts, like once an hour. At even around 3 minutes between transmissions I appeared to be pushing it's duty cycle limits.

One thing I notice is you say IP67 is the rating, which would imply dust and waterproof. Not just a little, but up to 1 meter for 30 minutes while operating. I've never seen this radio up close but the best I've ever personally seen is the old Yaesu FTM-10R that was intended for motorcyles. In that case it was only the face that was waterproof and even that was only IP57. The body had to be in a dry location because of the face remote, antenna, power and ext speaker jacks.

In any case assuming that's true or at least close to it this would suggest there is of course no fan or vents in the body.

I'd want to make sure at least one side had decent exposure to air moving around it. Under a seat is likely absolutely fine (I have a 50W commercial mobile fan-less under my seat on top of carpet, but it has a huge heat sink with tons of fins). On the back wall behind a seat back, fine, too. I would take more care in a glove box. Not so much because of the box itself but it would likely get junk throw on top of it, blocking air flow. Behind the dash, mostly fine, maybe use the way Toyota mounted various ECUs as an example. Stuck in a cubby or console, here again just be mindful of not having a jacket and a pile of napkins burying it. My rule of thumb is once mounted if I can wrap my hands around the radio then it should be fine.

Take all that FWIW.
 
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You DO need to allow airflow around ALL radios. Sorry Scott, but that's physics.

¡ I rebuke physics and thermodynamics ! :p

I hope you didn't think I am recommending packing any equipment, radio inclusive a very tight and stuffed quarters. You are correct, it is fanless and so does not need a specific mounting for airflow. Obviously some is of course required, like any other equipment.


so if you're a talker or have your APRS set to beacon every 30 seconds at full power you need more air flow.

Of course FCC isn't allowing data (yet) on GMRS channels from a mobile (v. handie) unit. BUT... a talkative convoy is high duty.


One thing I notice is you say IP67 is the rating, which would imply dust and waterproof. Not just a little, but up to 1 meter for 30 minutes while operating. I've never seen this radio up close

It is indeed IP67 Ingress. The model is called the XRS-390C-U. Both the speakermic, and base. This was done A) because oz military, and B) for these boys:
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I would take more care in a glove box. Not so much because of the box itself but it would likely get junk throw on top of it, blocking air flow.

I am intentionally running one in my glovebox to see how it does. I'm not packing it with a sweatshirt, but all the other random stuff in-tact. I'll be 100% honest if I'm able to kill it.
 
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