Chinamans is no longer Chinamans.

simps80

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They’re shutting down libraries because of bathroom meth use the staff isn’t allowed to even report never mind intervene on..
And by intervene I mean calling law enforcement not trying to directly intervene

First hand not bs

Starting more than 15 years ago a direct relative was instructed to not interfere with “questionable” activities in the library on computers that were open to use for free with a library card…it looks bad to intervene or report

And I am talking about a 35 year educated veteran of the library system..

People who protested were demoted and or fired

It’s fully out of control all of it
The rule of law is gone and has been replaced by sensitivities

I appreciate being sensitive but…
We are talking about libraries being turned into dens of the worst types of porn and sanctuaries of drug use..because the counter doesn’t fit the narrative

And most sad these aren’t statements of political hyperbole

The pendulum has snapped from the shaft
 
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The name itself seems totally benign. I didn’t even know it was a derogatory term until my teen years.

It seems some folks from the Chinese and Asian community are indifferent and have no preference either way. Like one of the posters here.

Let me say from my perspective. With the background being the son of immigrants. Growing up in the south in my youth. Called and ridiculed with various names, including chinaman and some much worse. The term doesn’t exactly bring back fond memories. The heated school bus verbal abuse sessions. Schoolyard fights. I’m not even Chinese but…that doesn’t matter to a lot of folks.
It wasn’t easy growing up in that environment. Maybe some of you have experienced that in your own way.

This isn’t a sob story. Just a perspective. Not everyone has fond memories of relating that term with quality time spent with family and friends.

I don’t take offense to the name itself. Somebody once said a fool takes offense where none is intended. A bigger fool takes offense when it is.
Whether that’s the case here or not, I’ll give the benefit of doubt.

But progress is good, too. I’m glad we don’t have a segregated wheeling club. Social class doesn’t matter. Gender is irrelevant. Marriage status. Religion.
The other poster said succumbing to this progress makes everything homogenized. I tend to disagree.
In business class I took a couple decades ago, a professor said the hardest thing we’ll ever do is to be able to view the world from the other person’s perspective.
Being able to discuss and view things like this from many people’s point of view makes us understand each other better and unite us. And if change is warranted, do it and move forward.

Rant over 🙂
Man, extremely well written and well stated!
 

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and we should not have to bow to anyone who doesn't have a clue what's going on just because they're offended by some place they've never been to's name. it's time to end this "woke" b.s. and get on with life.

all those complaining about negro bill canyon probably never read a thing about him. history, which i admit could be wrong, states negro bill called himself that. just like nancy green went from being an enslaved woman to being the most famous peddler of syrup and she and her family lived a comfortable life instead of dying poor. society says we should hate kit carson because he killed indians, but he befriended far more than he killed and had an indian wife.
Was just reading this thread and saw Matt mentioned Negro Bill (now Grandstaff) Canyon. He was an interesting person and pivotal to the history of western Colorado and southeast Utah, amongst other places. His name was William Grandstaff. The cross on Red Mountain in Glenwood honors him. I've seen other references to him, Kathryn McGaughey in her memoirs about Paradox Valley mentioned him, for example.

As it was told the old name was actually an attempt by the residents of Moab to be sensitive in their time (that being the 1950s) because it's original colloquial name apparently wasn't "negro." It's also kind of a conundrum because the name Grandstaff was the surname of his enslaver as that was the practice at the time. So when he was born his name was just William, thus now the name is as much a reminder to his being a slave as what he did after. It also now remembers the person claiming ownership to a human and Bill's real name sort of doesn't appear on the map anymore.


 
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