the spotted thread -

[DaveInDenver]

...makes me wonder if that plate is registered to that vehicle. Even so, it's a sweet rig!

"Sure, it's a 1964 FJ40. Just imported it from Australia!"

 

[Notyourmomslx450]

I think the owner is confused. They be doin Jeep things with a LC. They have a duck zip tied to the brush guard.

 

[HDavis]

It can't be any older than 1990, right? It couldn't have been grandfathered in 2009 as it wouldn't have been old enough and can't qualify for them now. Curious.

I believe that if the vehicle is older than 32 years old then it is eligible for collector plates. Emissions and other collector plate rules still apply.

 

[HoneyBadger]

Spotted in Englewood.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Spotted in Englewood.

Bad A$$ 70 series!!! Left hand drive!!! Lucky!!!

 

[rushthezeppelin]

Saw these two in the park right across from my house yesterday. Talked to both of them for a bit. Rust one even has the bumper I have on order so was cool getting to see it on a truck.

 

[Cruisertrash]

7th & Logan

 

[rushthezeppelin]

Spotted this 88 this morning. Talked to the guy to, he has a freshly rebuilt 22R in but it's probably going to do a 1uz swap. Also had a SASed 1st Gen Tundra on 40s.

 

[DaveInDenver]

Spotted this 88 this morning. Talked to the guy to, he has a freshly rebuilt 22R in but it's probably going to do a 1uz swap. Also had a SASed 1st Gen Tundra on 40s.

I assume you meant '78 but that's also not possible. A 4WD Hilux with outside hooks on the bed would have to be 1979 to 1982. This generation truck was introduced in August 1978 for 1979 model year. The previous generation was not available as 4WD and looked different anyway.

A couple of clues. One is you'd have to look at the tailgate. A '79 or '80 would have a throw lever on each side while the '81 and '82 had a single handle in the middle. Another is a 1982 would have square headlights.

If he's calling it a 1978 it's probably because the built date is Aug to Dec 1978. So it's probably a 1979 but maybe 1980.

That's a really nice looking one that seems mostly original.

 

[rushthezeppelin]

I assume you meant '78 but that's also not possible. A round headlight 4WD Hilux with outside hooks on the bed would have to be either 1979 to 1982. This generation truck was introduced in August 1978 for 1979 model year. The previous generation was not available as 4WD and looked different anyway. If he's calling it a 1978 it's probably because the built date is Aug to Dec 1978.

Hard to tell for sure from this angle, you'd have to look at the tailgate. A '79 or '80 would have a throw lever on each side while the '81 and '82 had a single handle in the middle.

That's a really nice looking one that seems mostly original.

I very likely misremembered the year on it. Regardless it's a cool truck.

 

[DaveInDenver]

I very likely misremembered the year on it. Regardless it's a cool truck.

Yup, very cool mostly unmodified survivor. It's kind of too bad he wants to swap it to a V8. But I get it, the R motors with carbs are harder to find parts to keep them running (particularly getting it smog tested). It can be done but it takes ingenuity and a good relationship with your parts guy. At some point you become a caretaker for a collectible relic instead of just a really dedicated owner of a utility tool. He's gonna find I think he'll have to basically do a whole drivetrain swap. The 4-speeds in these, the L43, didn't last behind the mighty 20R, never mind a 2UZ! In fact even the later transmissions like the G and W series aren't all that strong.

 

[DanTheMan]

The dealer here in Santa Maria had a nice Bandeirante on their showroom floor

 

[Notyourmomslx450]

Spotted in Englewood.

I think he was with us on the snow run. It's a middle eastern Cruiser with a 3FE

 

[rushthezeppelin]

Yup, very cool mostly unmodified survivor. It's kind of too bad he wants to swap it to a V8. But I get it, the R motors with carbs are harder to find parts to keep them running (particularly getting it smog tested). It can be done but it takes ingenuity and a good relationship with your parts guy. At some point you become a caretaker for a collectible relic instead of just a really dedicated owner of a utility tool. He's gonna find I think he'll have to basically do a whole drivetrain swap. The 4-speeds in these, the L43, didn't last behind the mighty 20R, never mind a 2UZ! In fact even the later transmissions like the G and W series aren't all that strong.

He mentioned he had a 5 speed so perhaps it holds up better? And it's a 1uz he's swapping.

 

[DaveInDenver]

He mentioned he had a 5 speed so perhaps it holds up better? And it's a 1uz he's swapping.

A 1UZ is a V8. The most stout 4 cylinder 5-speed transmission Toyota ever put in was the W59 behind the 3RZ in the 95-2004 Tacoma and up to 2000 4Runner, which they also used a W58 in front of the 2JZ. That's the inline 6 cylinder in 4th gen Supra. That was around 225 HP & 210 lb-ft. That's generally the most recommended for any W-series, maybe up to a mid-grade V6 like a 4.3L Vortec or so.

The only W that easily fits 20/22R block is the W56 from the 89-95 trucks. It was never used on anything more powerful than a 22R-E. The cool kid Marlin engine swap is to use a Taco 3RZ 4 cylinder in front of the existing 4 cylinder drivetrain. You can keep the W58 bellhousing since it fits the body of a W56. So that and the transfer case(s) behind it don't have to change under the truck.

The most detuned 1UZ makes 256 HP & 260 lb-ft. In the Tacoma Toyota uses the R or RA transmission in turbo 4-cylinder, 2005+ 2TR-FE Tacoma and all the V6 trucks. One of those is probably OK behind a mild V8 like that. But the problem there is the original transfer case will be chain-driven so the original gear-driven one behind the 20R/L43 that came with the truck won't just bolt on. If it's a 81-83 it could be the L50/52 he's talking about. It's still an L so pretty marginal for strength.

You can put an adapter between the output of a V6 R150 and the input of a 4-cylinder RF1A t-case but that's a kludge so the shifter will move slightly. This is why the turbo R151 is so desired, no adapter needed to a gear t-case. At that point you might as well do double cases with a gear-type in middle and a chain rear case and put in all new holes in the floor. But if he's already replaced the original L43 with a 5-speed he had to drill at least a new hole since the L43 is side shift (hole off to the side of the tunnel) and the G/W are top shift (hole in the middle of the tunnel).

So the ship has already sailed with having reversible mods for an enthusiast worried about originality anyway. The truth there is that unless you're really worried about restoring a museum piece going to any top shift is a major improvement over a L43, which was really undersized even for a 20R in trucks where you're asking for low RPM and using lots of torque. The input bearings wore out really fast in them. Even the G52 they used later were marginal. Marlin bores them for larger input bearings that are similar to W56. That moved the weakness to be internal, the shafts and gears of the W transmissions themselves just can't take more power so you just have to move to an R or H55/H155 (like in a Cruiser).

 

[rushthezeppelin]

A 1UZ is a V8. The most stout 4 cylinder 5-speed transmission Toyota ever put in was the W58 behind the 3RZ in the 95-2004 Tacoma and up to 2000 4Runner, which they also used in front of the 2JZ. That's the inline 6 cylinder in 4th gen Supra. That was around 225 HP & 210 lb-ft. That's generally the most recommended for any W-series, maybe up to a mid-grade V6 like a 4.3L Vortec or so.

The only W that easily fits 20/22R block is the W56 from the 89-95 trucks. It was never used on anything more powerful than a 22R-E. The cool kid Marlin engine swap is to use a Taco 3RZ 4 cylinder in front of the existing 4 cylinder drivetrain. You can keep the W58 bellhousing since it fits the body of a W56. So that and the transfer case(s) behind it don't have to change under the truck.

The most detuned 1UZ makes 256 HP & 260 lb-ft. In the Tacoma Toyota uses the R or RA transmission in turbo 4-cylinder, 2005+ 2TR-FE Tacoma and all the V6 trucks. One of those is probably OK behind a mild V8 like that. But the problem there is the original transfer case will be chain-driven so the original gear-driven one behind the 20R/L43 that came with the truck won't just bolt on.

You can put an adapter between the output of a turbo/V6 R150 and the input of a 4-cylinder RF1A t-case but that's a kludge so the shifter will move slightly. At that point you might as well do double cases with a gear-type in middle and a chain rear case and put in all new holes in the floor. But if he's already replaced the original L43 with a 5-speed he had to drill at least a new hole since the L43 is side shift (hole off to the side of the tunnel) and the G/W are top shift (hole in the middle of the tunnel).

So the ship has already sailed with having reversible mods for an enthusiast worried about originality anyway. The truth there is that unless you're really worried about restoring a museum piece going to any top shift is a major improvement over a L43, which was really undersized even for a 20R in trucks where you're asking for low RPM and using lots of torque. The input bearings wore out really fast in them. Even the G52 they used later were marginal. Marlin bores them for larger input bearings that are similar to W56. That moved the weakness to be internal, the shafts and gears of the W transmissions themselves just can't take more power so you just have to move to an R or H55/H155 (like in a Cruiser).

Interesting info. We didn't discuss transmissions so perhaps he's already got something worked out for this. I invited him to checkout the club so perhaps we will see him show up on the forums at some point.

 

[Notyourmomslx450]

A 1UZ is a V8. The most stout 4 cylinder 5-speed transmission Toyota ever put in was the W59 behind the 3RZ in the 95-2004 Tacoma and up to 2000 4Runner, which they also used a W58 in front of the 2JZ. That's the inline 6 cylinder in 4th gen Supra. That was around 225 HP & 210 lb-ft. That's generally the most recommended for any W-series, maybe up to a mid-grade V6 like a 4.3L Vortec or so.

The only W that easily fits 20/22R block is the W56 from the 89-95 trucks. It was never used on anything more powerful than a 22R-E. The cool kid Marlin engine swap is to use a Taco 3RZ 4 cylinder in front of the existing 4 cylinder drivetrain. You can keep the W58 bellhousing since it fits the body of a W56. So that and the transfer case(s) behind it don't have to change under the truck.

The most detuned 1UZ makes 256 HP & 260 lb-ft. In the Tacoma Toyota uses the R or RA transmission in turbo 4-cylinder, 2005+ 2TR-FE Tacoma and all the V6 trucks. One of those is probably OK behind a mild V8 like that. But the problem there is the original transfer case will be chain-driven so the original gear-driven one behind the 20R/L43 that came with the truck won't just bolt on.

You can put an adapter between the output of a turbo/V6 R150 and the input of a 4-cylinder RF1A t-case but that's a kludge so the shifter will move slightly. At that point you might as well do double cases with a gear-type in middle and a chain rear case and put in all new holes in the floor. But if he's already replaced the original L43 with a 5-speed he had to drill at least a new hole since the L43 is side shift (hole off to the side of the tunnel) and the G/W are top shift (hole in the middle of the tunnel).

So the ship has already sailed with having reversible mods for an enthusiast worried about originality anyway. The truth there is that unless you're really worried about restoring a museum piece going to any top shift is a major improvement over a L43, which was really undersized even for a 20R in trucks where you're asking for low RPM and using lots of torque. The input bearings wore out really fast in them. Even the G52 they used later were marginal. Marlin bores them for larger input bearings that are similar to W56. That moved the weakness to be internal, the shafts and gears of the W transmissions themselves just can't take more power so you just have to move to an R or H55/H155 (like in a Cruiser).

A buddy has a 3rd gen pickup has a 1UZ, matted to a R150 and chain case.

 

[DaveInDenver]

A buddy has a 3rd gen pickup has a 1UZ, matted to a R150 and chain case.

That swap makes sense. The R150 and chain t-case hold up fine on supercharged V6s so a mild V8 would seem like no problem.

Another plus is the 89-95 trucks were designed around a 'V' engine block from the factory so things fit under the hood. Although a 79-83 is just a bit smaller, so while there's space the truck still only ever got inline 4 cylinders so ancillaries on the fenders and firewall aren't always positioned conveniently.

 

[timmbuck2]

I waited to say hi but had to leave. I have never been a taco guy, but I love the look of this one. Lowe's on Santa Fe and Belleview.

 

[Tch2fly]

Came out of Family Shooting center yesterday and this was in the parking lot ... no sticker, not sure if it is a club member