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I mounted mine in the same place but w/o the cradle. Makes the front face sit more flush to the vertical part of the tranny hump. I mounted it with industrial strength velcro.
 

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Thanks for the pics Tim :thumb:

Matt's is setup real similar to yours only shifted to the right and I don't believe he used the mounting bracket so it sits flush to the console.

Just out of curiousity I shot off an email to Yaesu about whether they ever plan to backlight the buttons on the FT-8800 and the answer I received back was "I have not heard of any plans to change the FT-8800". :(

The price difference is significant between the Kenwood and Yaesu only if you start throwing in the separation kits for the panel and the microphone. Those alone raise the price quite a bit. I know that you can probably make your own extensions so that may no be as big of an issue but that is one of the attractions of the FT-8800 for me because I have GCs for Ham City (I know, bad that I'm not buying local :() and the FT-8800 comes with the separation kit for $340...Throw in $10-$15 for S&H and I'm done.

With the Kenwood it would be $360 for the rig, $42 for the separation kit, $65 for the extension cables, and $36 for the programming cable...$502.80 :eek: plus about $10-$15 for S&H.

I think I'm going to have to learn how to use the FT-8800 in the dark, or come up with a small LED with diffused lighting that I can mount above the panel that will come on with my lights and light up the panel :)


One side note on the dual band discussion. I love the capability on my HT but I've found that I get confused about which "side" I'm hearing the discussion on. Like when I'm listening to the repeater and .460 and hear a call. If I don't look quick I miss which freq the call was on...Probably would be easier with the FT-8800 panel mounted vs. having the HT just sitting on the console to see which is which. I also noticed on the runs with the CB and Ham on it was hard to discern whether the person was talking on the Ham or the CB if I couldn't look (which sometimes you can when you are wheeling :)). Part of that is probably due to the proximity of the CB speaker (on the unit) and the HT speaker (in the mic) to each other.

edit: :lmao: I need to learn to type shorter responses...I started this before Matt posted up :hill:
 

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We borrowed UB's VX-7r for moab and I really liked the ability to have two channels monitoring at once,, something I miss having with my IC-V8000. It was nice when on the road to monitor the repeater of choice and still leave the same radio on 146.460. At some point i'll have a radio capable of monitoring two channels just because it cuts down the time I spend fooling with it while on the road.

BTW, Kevin, I'll get the radio back to yo unext week, thanks for letting us borrow it!
 

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We borrowed UB's VX-7r for moab and I really liked the ability to have two channels monitoring at once,, something I miss having with my IC-V8000. It was nice when on the road to monitor the repeater of choice and still leave the same radio on 146.460. At some point i'll have a radio capable of monitoring two channels just because it cuts down the time I spend fooling with it while on the road.

BTW, Kevin, I'll get the radio back to yo unext week, thanks for letting us borrow it!

What....not coming to breakfast in the am? :confused:

BTW No rush on the HT....been to busy to strip down to the briefs and play high tech trucker lately....
 

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Nope, no breakfast for me, had to fly out of town for work again :0/
 

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So Tim...Have you come to any conclusions? :)
 

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I think I'm going with the FT-8800 again. But I'm going to go HRO to play with them first, and see what I think of the Kenwood, then bottom line see what the out the door price is on each setup. Want to go? will likely do next Saturday morning, I'll start a separate thread for that...
 

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I think I'm going with the FT-8800 again. But I'm going to go HRO to play with them first, and see what I think of the Kenwood, then bottom line see what the out the door price is on each setup. Want to go? will likely do next Saturday morning, I'll start a separate thread for that...


FT-8800 it is...I noticed something on the Alinco, or maybe it was the Icom, rig that Yaesu should SERIOUSLY consider doing. I don't recall if the rig has lit up buttons but right above the buttons on the screen is an indicator of what the button's function below is. Might require the face of the FT-8800 to be redesigned a bit but I think if they are not going to light up the buttons then they could borrow this trick to aid users in night ops :thumb:
 

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I don't have it but would buy it if I wanted a dual band rig with APRS. I ended up going with the 857d for the HF and the ability to bring it in the house and use it as a base station.
 

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I have the Kenwood TM-V71A. Buttons have back lights. You can change the display to green on the head unit but not the mic. The green does not match an 80's dash perfectly.

You can upgrade it to the 710 from what I have read. Someday I might if APRS becomes more wide spread.

I'm a slacker on learning all its features so don't ask me too many specifics.

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what antenna do you have with the 710 and what gps do you have it hooked to Taft?
 

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X-band repeaters

I still don't see the big deal with the dual radio radio setup. Why not just scan two channels on a single radio? If you actually set it to do a cross band repeat, that'd be cool but then you need a repeater license if you leave it unattended.

In amateur radio, there is no separate "repeater license", your "Primary Station License IS your license to set up, activate, and operate a repeater, or even more than one repeater, (on Amateur Radio Frequencies ONLY)! The things that you have to make sure of, for a X-band repeater are:

1. In a cross-band repeater, BOTH inputs/outputs MUST be either on a pre-designated FM simplex, (see both the ARRL and local band-plans, if applicable), or repeater sub-band frequency. Both frequencies are alternately an input and an output frequency and they must NOT "splatter" into other "sub-bands" within either of the bands being utilized, or interfere with other repeaters, or other operators on other adjacent frequencies. You SHOULD discuss the setup of a cross-band repeater with the frequency coordinator for your area, and get your cross-band repeater COORDINATED, even if the operation is temporary, a coordinated repeater has "priority", in the event of a conflict with another, (uncoordinated), repeater, and the coordinator would be derelict if he coordinated your repeater on the same pair as another repeater. If a "SNP", (Shared Non-protected Pair) on each band isn't in use, you may decide to use them, or use half, (outputs ONLY), of one on each band, if your operation is temporary, just be absolutely certain that they're NOT "in use"!
2. In a cross-band repeater BOTH of the frequencies being utilized, MUST have the repeater identification sent in an acceptable fashion, (voice, MCW, [or both], in instances where FM voice is being used), as the F.C.C. does not "waive" the identification requirements under any circumstances.
3. You MUST have a means to render the repeater "inoperative" within three,(or is it ten?), minutes in the event that it is being interfered with, or is causing undue interference to other operations on the frequencies that you are using, or to adjacent frequencies that are in use by other operators, repeaters, etc. !
PS: I used to thain that I'd always want to only have single band radios, since : "If you send your radio to the shop for repairs, you're really missing two radios", then I acquired my first dual-band HT, an Alinco DJ-G5T! :D:D:D
 

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X-band repeaters

I still don't see the big deal with the dual radio radio setup. Why not just scan two channels on a single radio? If you actually set it to do a cross band repeat, that'd be cool but then you need a repeater license if you leave it unattended.

In amateur radio, there is no separate "repeater license", your "Primary Station License IS your license to set up, activate, and operate a repeater, or even more than one repeater, (on Amateur Radio Frequencies ONLY)! The things that you have to make sure of, for a X-band repeater are:

1. In a cross-band repeater, BOTH inputs/outputs MUST be either on a pre-designated FM simplex, (see both the ARRL and local band-plans, if applicable), or repeater sub-band frequency. Both frequencies are alternately an input and an output frequency and they must NOT "splatter" into other "sub-bands" within either of the bands being utilized, or interfere with other repeaters, or other operators on other adjacent frequencies. You SHOULD discuss the setup of a cross-band repeater with the frequency coordinator for your area, and get your cross-band repeater COORDINATED, even if the operation is temporary, a coordinated repeater has "priority", in the event of a conflict with another, (uncoordinated), repeater, and the coordinator would be derelict if he coordinated your repeater on the same pair as another coordinated repeater. If a "SNP", (Shared Non-protected Pair) on each band isn't in use, you may decide to use them, or use half, (outputs ONLY), of one on each band, if your operation is temporary, just be absolutely certain that they're NOT "in use"!
2. In a cross-band repeater BOTH of the frequencies being utilized, MUST have the repeater identification sent in an acceptable fashion, (voice, MCW, [or both], in instances where FM voice is being used), as the F.C.C. does not "waive" the identification requirements under any circumstances.
3. You MUST have a means to render the repeater "inoperative" within three,(or is it ten?), minutes in the event that it is being interfered with, or is causing undue interference to other operations on the frequencies that you are using, or to adjacent frequencies that are in use by other operators, repeaters, etc. !
PS: I used to thain that I'd always want to only have single band radios, since : "If you send your radio to the shop for repairs, you're really missing two radios", then I acquired my first dual-band HT, an Alinco DJ-G5T! :D:D:D
 
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