School me on my welds...

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get as close as you can, start at the top and work your way down.

bring it down i'll do it for ya :thumb:

as far as the end piece. i'd work a bit more on the flat part and edge over if you know what i mean.

i would have capped the end first, you would have more "meat" to weld with.
 

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increase the voltage to compensate for the additional stickout.

work in an "A" pattern or triangle as you go up.
 

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Cut down your penetration on the thin stuff, less voltage and less feed, and move a bit quicker.

Is this back seat welding, or team welding? Armchair quarterback welding?
 

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Thanks guys.

Jim, The ends will not be capped because I am going to install little doors over them to store long poles for an awning in them.

Sounds good, I will try a few scrap peices!

Thanks! My trailer is coming along nicely! :D What do you think?
 

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Very sweet. Gotta admire a man who throws MT/Rs under a trailer!
 

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WOW! I can't believe how great my trailer kit is starting to look Drew :D

You do plan to deliever it when you are done, correct? I imagine the one you make for yourself will have even more features :)
 
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Drew those welds are looking great!

Dunno what gun you're using, but I have an M10 if you're still needing something small to get in that angle.

Treat edges the same way you would, if you were welding thin to thick...spend a little more time on the flat and wick the edge in to the puddle, like SROR was saying.

Isaac, do you mean your beads seem too tall, or too wide?

-Sean
 

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i have yet to figure out why someone would put such an aggresive tire on a trailer.:confused:

an all terrain with a less agrresive tread would keep the drag down.

He put the same tire and wheel on the trailer as his truck, so he can rotate off the trailer and get more life out of the tires. Also, two more spares if he is having a REALLY bad day!

Isaac, do you mean your beads seem too tall, or too wide?

-Sean

Both.
 

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i have yet to figure out why someone would put such an aggresive tire on a trailer.:confused:

an all terrain with a less agrresive tread would keep the drag down.

And this comes from the man who's slogan is "if you are going to build it, then over build it!":eek::D

Pretty easy. I can have two tires that are street tires, or have two more to rotate between my DD. BTW, I scored both new MT/R's for less than the price of one off Craigslist.

Honestly, there is a certain cool factor in the rig and trailer looking similar. This thing will be smurf blue with a white top when done too :thumb:

Drew
 

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This thing will be smurf blue with a white top when done too :thumb:

Drew

Drew, my 40 is red man :confused:. I think the smurf blue and red will clash. Then again the hardtop is white...So, I guess red, white, and blue wouldn't be so bad :thumb:
 

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Hey fellas, well this thread is where it all started so I thought I would pose a new question as I move into my next phase of building this trailer. Attaching sheet metal to the tube frame.

Both the tubing, 1x1" square, and the sheet are 16ga and I am going to be attaching most of the sheets from the inside of the structure. I am thinking of punching lots of little holes in the sheet clamping it in place and then rosette welding them close...

Sound about right? Also for this light stuff, should I drop back to the .025 wire instead of the .030?

Thanks a bunch! :thumb:

Drew
 

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Yup. Others may differ but with my Miller I can get .030 to do the deed pretty well. Short duration. You will be also welding to structural members, no? Like, L stock or small tubing? Pure sheet won't be strong.

If you are talking vertical members, simply stitch weld (NOT continuous bead) the tubing to the sheet in the corner where the materials meet. Again, very short duration. Spot and/or stitch, not bead. The sheet WILL buckle and warp, so heat management is critical.
 

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Pop rivets would also be a good option as you can lay a thin bead of silicon everywhere the panel touches structure and pop rivet the panels in place. That will stop the rusting between the pieces and let you remove without damaging the panels if you change your mind about something.
 

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well the proper technique would be to do edge spots at the ends with the sheets clamped evenly across the edge to be welded. Then edge-spot the middle. Then divide the gaps again, and again, and again, until you get about 1" space between spots, or possibly even .5". Then run bead alternating spaces to control heat warpage.

As for the wire diameter, that's not as important as the voltage/amperage. If you could get a 110v with .023 wire, you would be in like flynn. However, with a 220v, you will need to start the puddle on the structural side, then push it over. You will spend 2-3 times the amount on the structural side vs the sheet metal side.

make sense?
 

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Thanks guys, that sounds great. Yeah, I thougt about rivets and haven't ruled them out but I am going to seam the seams anyhow with good selant and the welder makes fast work of bonding the pieces.

I will give it a few tries and let you know how it turns out.

Drew
 

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Should I be scared to weld up a receiver hitch? They cost about 100 bucks to my door for the fj40... I am tempted to take matters into my own hands. Seems like lots of folks are welding thick L material to a receiver tube and calling it a day.

Is this sketch, or should I look more into it?

thanks!
 

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I would do it, no problem. You can come over and stick it here if you want. I would loan you my machine, but it ways about 300lbs... The hardest part imho is the pattern making. You can oval/oblong the holes with a plasma or torch to get it close. I am going over to a salvage yard (architectural) this morning, but I can definitely help tomorrow.

I would just use 1/4 tube and angle myself. with some gussets on the receiver to cross tube. _|_

j
 

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Should I be scared to weld up a receiver hitch? They cost about 100 bucks to my door for the fj40... I am tempted to take matters into my own hands. Seems like lots of folks are welding thick L material to a receiver tube and calling it a day.

Is this sketch, or should I look more into it?

thanks!

Just do it! ;)
 
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