Official Synthetic Winch line Splicing Thread

[Inukshuk]

Those of you who have used the deep bury method what did you use for the stitches? A plastic yarn needle? What kind of string?

Most recently I used this thread:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0829KT3FV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

and these needles:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXNZO3O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[rushthezeppelin]

Looks like I'm going to be needing to get a soft eye spliced into the end of my winch line here soon. I got one of these winch pucks.

I've got 3/8" line on my winch. I guess usually people have to pull their line completely to do a Brummel Loop but I did also run across this from Yankum on how to do that splice without pulling your line off.

Looks like you absolutely need a fid to do this method though, anyone got a properly sized fid and want to help me do this?

 

[rushthezeppelin]

Also open to a full bury with locking stitch since that does retain 100% MBS.

 

[Inukshuk]

That video is a McDonald - Brummel lock. The "McDonald" part is not having a free tail (the end on the drum). Method pictured is a bit different than I have seen before and seems to work nicely. https://www.animatedknots.com/mcdonald-brummel-splice-knot

As long as you are not using a thimble, it works fine.

Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but just confirming to all readers: The tail bury is what provides splice strength in all 12 strand synthetic splices. The "lock" mechanism, whether a Brummel or stitch, is to keep the tail from creeping out of the bury under slack conditions.

All this said, in my lines I have mostly used soft eyes with removable abrasion guards and deep bury's lock stitched. I have a new preference for Brummel / McDonald - Brummel after a few lock stitches getting torn. Easy to fix though. My new locking thread is now also dyneema.

Anyway, your master pull line shown looks to be "double braid". That outer sheath is totally spliceable but adds a level of complexity.

Regarding the "puck", why do you need a new loop?

 

[rushthezeppelin]

That video is a McDonald - Brummel lock. The "McDonald" part is not having a free tail (the end on the drum). Method pictured is a bit different than I have seen before and seems to work nicely. https://www.animatedknots.com/mcdonald-brummel-splice-knot

As long as you are not using a thimble, it works fine.

Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but just confirming to all readers: The tail bury is what provides splice strength in all 12 strand synthetic splices. The "lock" mechanism, whether a Brummel or stitch, is to keep the tail from creeping out of the bury under slack conditions.

All this said, in my lines I have mostly used soft eyes with removable abrasion guards and deep bury's lock stitched. I have a new preference for Brummel / McDonald - Brummel after a few lock stitches getting torn. Easy to fix though. My new locking thread is now also dyneema.

Anyway, your master pull line shown looks to be "double braid". That outer sheath is totally spliceable but adds a level of complexity.

Regarding the "puck", why do you need a new loop?

I don't have have a master pull line, just the regular 3/8ths line that came on my winch. I just want to install the puck and get rid of some metal in the system.

 

[rover67]

Yes, I've made a bunch of them. It's a fun project. Lots of videos on how to do the knot. You need a decent length of rope to do it.

I was in this thread poking around because I wanted a refresher on how to put a tube thimble on the end of my winchline. I came across this old post of mine and wanted to mention that after talking to Jackson, reading Daniels posts, and understanding more about ratings, etc. I retired my home-made soft shackles a long time ago. FWIW in case anybody else is in here reading about making some I didn't feel it was worth it or that they'd be really usable in a safe and reliable way.