How to keep the rust away?

yotadude520

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I'm about to embark on a trip to Denver with my FJ60 this weekend and will be there for a month - I live in AZ and have never had to do anything to address rust before and am not quite sure how to protect the body. I plan on spraying the entire underbody with Fluid Film, but the body does have a few areas of surface rust that I want to protect.

Boiled linseed oil, patina sauce, CLR - what do you guys use on the body?
 

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I'm about to embark on a trip to Denver with my FJ60 this weekend and will be there for a month - I live in AZ and have never had to do anything to address rust before and am not quite sure how to protect the body. I plan on spraying the entire underbody with Fluid Film, but the body does have a few areas of surface rust that I want to protect.

Boiled linseed oil, patina sauce, CLR - what do you guys use on the body?
To be honest you're visiting Colorado, in an 80's vintage vehicle that had zero factory rust proofing, at the worst time of year when there is massive amounts of mag chloride on the roads and seasonal melt that magnifies the mag spray onto your vehicle.

My only suggestion is wash it as much as you can while you're here and when you get back.

I simply don't drive my 60 in the winter here.

Enjoy Colorado!
 

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To be honest you're visiting Colorado, in an 80's vintage vehicle that had zero factory rust proofing, at the worst time of year when there is massive amounts of mag chloride on the roads and seasonal melt that magnifies the mag spray onto your vehicle.

My only suggestion is wash it as much as you can while you're here and when you get back.

I simply don't drive my 60 in the winter here.

Enjoy Colorado!

I know, I'm really not excited about it. The things we do for love I swear...
 

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I've noticed the rust prevention question brings up many opinions like a question about soldering vs crimping of wire terminals. Just an analogy to help explain there are a lot of opinions. In my experience some are helpful and some are less. Hope that makes sense.

Also in my experience Fluid Film is easy to apply, easy to get, might not be perfect, but does appear to work to some extent. Example: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Fluid-Film-11-75-oz-Lanolin-Based-Petroleum-Oil/50335157

2-3 11 oz cans cover the underside of my Tacoma to my satisfaction and as much as I can tell helps protect against corrosion for a few months given my driving. I believe there are other similar products made by other brands like CRC.

If you want, I'd totally also wash my truck like @BritKLR mentions.

Give it all a try, and let us know how it works for you.

Allen
 

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When I read the title before opening I was going to say move to AZ, but you're already there. Like others said wash often, a month should not hurt it. If you stay out of the mountains you may not even see any mag chloride. Its March, most of the front range snow should be over.

My 80-series has been in Colorado for 25 of its 27 years. First two in VA. It rusted more in those two years than the 25 here. I hardly ever wash it. I know an 80 has a much better immunity system to rust than a 60 but its perspective.
 

yotadude520

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Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it! I'll fluid film it and apply it to the body where there's some surface rust and call it a day.
 

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I generally do a Wool Wax coat in the fall. I used Fluid Film in the past, which is the same stuff, suspended lanolin goop. Wool Wax seems thicker than Fluid Film and a little cheaper is all.

What chews up frames and panels is rust from the inside. So do this right you need an undercoat gun and a wand to spray inside the frame. The stuff you can see is the last place to rust. I've see really bad frames where it's the paint holding back iron oxide dust and air.

In your case I wouldn't worry, a good cleaning when you get home and back to normal. The problem as I see it is to be useful you need to get the anti-corrosion goop in places where salt and debris don't get cleaned.

The first time I did my undercoat I spent several days power washing the underside like crazy, down inside boxed sections, pulling frame plugs, had the bumpers off. The sand and muck just kept running out, so I kept washing and washing and washing. Then I let it dry a few days, sanded and painted all the rust I could get to. Then sprayed the insides of the frame with a sealing epoxy paint (Eastwood Internal Frame Coat). Let that cure. Only then did I spray the Fluid Film. It was a good two weeks of prep and coat in the garage and my truck was only 42k miles old.

The reason I say all that is once you spray that junk on it makes a mess of little pebbles and bugs stuck in it. It'll end up in your hair and all over your clothes and tools when you work under there. You can wash it mostly off the frame with warm soapy water and some elbow grease. But paint won't stick well unless you really get after the surfaces with solvent and even then it won't stick in corners. This came up when I went to weld reinforcements to my frame later.

So unless I was going to the effort to do it well it's probably more trouble that it's worth in the future for you.

BTW @allen.wrench, only crimp terminals. Always. Soldering is for 1950s guitar amps and assembling PCB boards.
 
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I'm about to embark on a trip to Denver with my FJ60 this weekend and will be there for a month - I live in AZ and have never had to do anything to address rust before and am not quite sure how to protect the body. I plan on spraying the entire underbody with Fluid Film, but the body does have a few areas of surface rust that I want to protect.

Boiled linseed oil, patina sauce, CLR - what do you guys use on the body?

Stay in AZ! March is our snowiest month in the Denver area, and April is second snowiest and they use a boat load of mag chloride (and regular sodium chloride too) here. My 60 came rust free from AZ and after 13 winters really rusted bad. Since you are stuck with coming here during our snowiest season, as others have suggested above just wash it underneath as often as the weather allows.
 

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@Rzeppa - I saw your 60 for sale, that's what made me even more concerned when I read it was an AZ truck.

@DaveInDenver - This is solid advice, thank you. I'll use the fluid film in the nooks and crannies of the frame as well as the c channels and fender wells and call it a day.

Luckily for me we do have another 4x4 up there and it will be garaged so I won't drive it in the snow if I don't have to. My main concerns are really only when I'm coming and going between here and AZ and one weekend where we'll be staying in Pine. Hopefully I don't encounter any salt/mag chloride, but want to be prepared just in case.
 
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