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I am surprised there's no thread yet to discuss the Tesla Cybertruck! Probably one of the most controversial designs of the modern era, it undoubtedly has impressive specs and an interesting engineering story behind it. This review while long is quite illuminating with commentary from the people responsible for making it happen. The second video is a bit more playful and shows the Cybertruck drag racing both the Rivian R1T and the Hummer EV.


View: https://youtu.be/uefydJUbRhc?si=JlF8NiqTFU1ofnbM



View: https://youtu.be/L6WDq0V5oBg?si=nvQsLUuMuaAjE0s1
 

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I'm surprised I haven't seen one driving around here in Monterey, California yet. At every other major high end car release of the last several years, there immediately have been multiples of super rare vehicles driving around town. Like when the Ford Lightning had the first few trucks sell, I saw two in town within a few days. Same with the Rivian R1T and R1S. Same with the Lucid Air.

My 👸🏻 saw a Cyber Truck maybe a month ago doing the test circuit they've been running between Freemont and Santa Cruz but I missed it.
 

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If I needed a work truck, I wouldn't buy a cybertruck. If I needed any truck, it wouldn't be a cybertruck. I had hoped it was more of a gimick, or a fad. Maybe Tesla would change their mind and make a truck that was humble, capable, and priced for the everyman. This design and engineering iteration is anything but that. It's a showpony that's over-promised, over-hyped, and under delivered.
It's an interesting piece of engineering, I'll give them that.

The low end model costs $20,000 more than it's initial release. (Some of that can be placed on the auto market, some of it can't.)
-If you're looking at picking up an EV, you could probably find something more appealing, and cheaper. You wouldn't be driving a door stop, so.. That could be a drawback.

It's range is lower than promised. 500 miles promised vs. 250 miles (320 miles for $100k model)
-You can purchase a 700lb range extender that takes up 1/3rd of the bed for towing. It would bring max range to 440 miles. Still short of the original promise.. and $65,000+ above original estimates. You could buy another truck with that margin.
-I'd be curious to see how that range fairs with real world towing.

I'm not part of the target market. I see vehicles as tools not status symbols. This is a bedazzled impact wrench with reduced battery life, reduced functionality, Tesla badge, and wicked PR team. Even if I could afford one, I'd pick up something else.

For the price tag, you could buy a used Model S, and a 2017 F-150 for towing.
It's a joke.
 

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Is this the first mass produced vehicle to use steer by wire?

I am guessing a hell of a lot of the 2 million reservations will cancel as soon as this vehicle doesn't sell for tens of thousands over MSRP. Given how inharmonious the vehicle looks are, I don't think that will be long. I do believe that it will sell well and for a long time though. I would 100% take a Rivian with comparable trims and pricing.
 

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The low end model costs $20,000 more than it's initial release. (Some of that can be placed on the auto market, some of it can't.)
-If you're looking at picking up an EV, you could probably find something more appealing, and cheaper. You wouldn't be driving a door stop, so.. That could be a drawback.

It's range is lower than promised. 500 miles promised vs. 250 miles (320 miles for $100k model)
-You can purchase a 700lb range extender that takes up 1/3rd of the bed for towing. It would bring max range to 440 miles. Still short of the original promise.. and $65,000+ above original estimates. You could buy another truck with that margin.
-I'd be curious to see how that range fairs with real world towing.


For the price tag, you could buy a used Model S, and a 2017 F-150 for towing.
It's a joke.

I agree it feels like a bait and switch from their initial promises. When the Cybertruck was initially unveiled in 2019, lots of friends asked what I thought since I had just joined Rivian, and I basically just said there was no way they could deliver it at the prices teased. Tesla is infamous for making claims that are hard to substantiate - they announced the Roadster in 2017 and there is still no ETA for it. Range claims for all their models have been very difficult for users to achieve, and there have been some disappointing missteps both for owners and investors.

All that said, I'm excited to see the Cybertruck hitting the market largely unchanged as polarizing as it is. There are nearly 300 (!!) different new models of cars and trucks available to US consumers today, and within each class, they're largely indistinguishable to most people. There are tons of permutations of trucks all with similar features and designs that aren't too dissimilar to the original pickups from more than half a century ago with body on frame construction, similar suspension and engine/transmission/transfer case/axle setups.

Automotive innovation has been incremental and largely driven by government mandate to make cars safer and more efficient, so disruptors like Tesla and Rivian are important to continue pushing the envelope of engineering. A point that's often missed in the conversation is the fact these innovative companies are American and hire workers in the US to design and build the vehicles right here, and our position as a world leader in technology and manufacturing is something I want to see continue. Some people will immediately dislike a vehicle if it's electric, but I don't understand those who claim to love America yet wish for American companies (at the forefront of technology employing tens of thousands of highly paid workers) to fail. I would love to see society and political and business leaders promote, celebrate, and fund even more American innovation to maintain our leadership position on the world stage. And side note, no I do not have a Cybertruck reservation :ROFLMAO:
 

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I feel bad for whoever buys one. Their emotional emptiness is to be pitied.

If I had the means I'd actually like a Rivian though. But then if I had the means I'd probably build something more fun.
 

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When the CT was first announced I literally thought it was a joke. All these years later I still don't understand. I just don't get the aesthetic I guess.

I saw a video of it climbing a rock wall and it exhibits the same problem as Rivian and Hummer EV: not enough torque at the wheels at low speeds. Can barely climb the hill. Tires slipping and spinning as the computer fights against the gear ratio.

 

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When the CT was first announced I literally thought it was a joke. All these years later I still don't understand. I just don't get the aesthetic I guess.

I saw a video of it climbing a rock wall and it exhibits the same problem as Rivian and Hummer EV: not enough torque at the wheels at low speeds. Can barely climb the hill. Tires slipping and spinning as the computer fights against the gear ratio.



That off-road park is just down the road from me.

Looks like they didn't air down.
 

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Passed this a couple of weeks ago in Cali.
 

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Typical EV garbage. :sick:
 
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