Colorado Moving to CARB Emission Standards

[fjc man]

Yep mag chloride. That was my late night brain.

I actually think it's far more nefarious than that. Sure, it is more expensive but we were doing it for decades when it was just a small hick state. Now we are the new silicone valley basically, all the new population is concentrated in the cities so there should be more funds available for the same road ways.

No, like I said it's more nefarious. How can they mandate we all have 100% electric cars by 2050 if our Land Cruisers are still working fine? Introduce salt and overly restrictive emissions standards and now like @denvermike says, "we'll get them off the road." That really is their goal.

This article from last year shows how CDOT is being taken over by politics. Case in point Polis replaced an experienced and capable civil engineer with a 35-year old history major with no relevant experience. Her qualifications? Daughter of the former secretary of treasury. She bounced around some DC agencies and finally stuck here in CO. Lucky us.

CDOT IN TOTAL DISARRAY - Glendale Cherry Creek Chronicle

Crony Bidding And Gross Incompetence Reign Part I Of A II Part Series by Charles C. Bonniwell At a time when Coloradans are desperately pleading for improved and new roadways the agency in charge of the same, the Colorado Department of Transportation (CDOT), is mired in the greatest crisis of...

glendalecherrycreek.com

Chucky Bonniwell, there’s a fair and balanced opinion.

 

[DaveInDenver]

Chucky Bonniwell, there’s a fair and balanced opinion.

Not sure who he is but I can tell you first hand that the basics of what was written in that article are true. Whether the political connections were deemed more important is an opinion, of course.

She replaced Mike Lewis, who was also a carpetbagger coming into CDOT originally from Rhode Island (same as Shoshana Lew, ironically) but he at least spent his career doing project management. And still doing. He's now in charge of transportation as a VP at HDR in New York, which is a 10,000 person construction design and management firm that itself is 3 times bigger than CDOT.

So he's moved significantly up in the industry and it was a loss to CDOT. Hickenlooper found someone experienced to deal with the I-70 project and he was the guy who worked on Boston's famous Big Dig and Rhode Island's large rebuild of I-95/I-195. He was a pretty darn good choice to be promoted to executive director. Mike Lewis was already at CDOT at the time as COO/deputy executive director, Shailen Bhatt departure created the opening.

No matter if you think the Big Dig went well or poorly at least it can be argued that he had demonstrative project experience with essentially the same thing as what was planned for I-70, which is why he was brought there in the first place.

Then to boot him out in the middle of it for what's obviously a political appointment simply makes no sense. She'll leave when something better comes along and I doubt it'll be better than this gig in terms of transportation engineering. Probably it'll be some cushy job in Washington.

 

[3rdGen4R]

Hello, Brand new to the forum,
Possible work around, solution. MT provides Permanent plates (10 years of age and older), no inspections, 50 State reciprocity.
This is not a weird one off grey area market, many exotics and RV dealers advertise “MT plates available.” at dealerships.
Searching LLC MT Plates gives you the long answer, with a few resentfully written Soured journo articles to boot. (don’t want to advertise any Company).

Personally as a 5th Gen MT native, now living in C Springs. I just co-register with my MT immediate Family, no inspection, just faxed the Family my proving docs, signed a MV registration form, sent title, and *baam* PERM plates, about $280 done.

I would hazard to guess a long standing club garnering 10 to 50+ members wanting these advantageous registration process might leverage a MT LLC, lawfirm into discounts...

Hope this is value added.

Yup. This is defiantly a viable option. A lot of no mads do this to my knowledge because of how easy it is and how they don't have to figure all of the regulatory garbage when you build a custom RV or Van. Same issues when you want to change a old engine that emits way more hazardous crap into the air and upgrading to a diesel engine.

I myself have thought about doing this on a future project.

 

[lazyLfarm]

I do think electric is the future, it's just the not so soon future. The infrastructure is no where in place to do that. It's OK at the moment but once you get a ton of cars on it its going to be a pain. Bad enough waiting in line at a gas station for 5 minutes for a car, what are you going to do waiting for 30mins per car for a "quick charge"

Not too mention, if we get all these Electric Cars...where exactly is all that electricity coming from? They keep wanting to shut down power plants.

Of the top 10 U.S. electric power plants in 2019, 9 have steam turbines powered by nuclear energy, coal, and natural gas.

Electricity generators by major type and share of total annual U.S. electricity generation in 2019

Generator	Plant type	Main fuel/energy source	Share of annual electricity generation
Steam turbine	Single cycle	All sources	47.7%
		Coal	23.3%
		Nuclear	19.6%
		Natural gas	2.6%
		Biomass (1.1%); Others (1.1%)	2.2%
Multiple	Combined cycle	Natural gas2	32.7%
Combustion turbine			20.9%
Steam turbine			10.4%
Dual/single shaft			1.4%
Combustion gas turbine	Single cycle	Natural gas2	3.3%
Wind turbine	All types	Wind	7.1%
Hydroelectric turbine	Conventional	Water	7.0%
Photovoltaic	All types	Solar	1.7%
Others3		Various	0.6%
Storage systems4		Various	0.1%

Now this is cool as hell...but I can't ever imagine doing it.
Cool thread about a "bolt in" Electric conversion FJ40. They are testing FJ60 as well now. Starting at $65,000. crate electric engine feels like driving 375HP combustion engine.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/electric-tlc-fj-40-build.1040022/



Plus, they already can remotely upgrade/enhance your Tesla from the "mothership" what's stopping all the companies from low power mandates, curfews/usage, tracking, shutting off just like your A/C water heater control from electric company, and at that point tickets for speeding REMOTELY to limit your car to speed limit or charge you for speeding, locking you in the car and driving you to the nearest PO-PO station....

 

[ScaldedDog]

I work like a dog to stay as young as possible, but every once in awhile, I'm glad I'm old. I'll pass on the distopian future yearned for by so many.

Mark

 

[IoN6]

CDOT IN TOTAL DISARRAY - Glendale Cherry Creek Chronicle

Crony Bidding And Gross Incompetence Reign Part I Of A II Part Series by Charles C. Bonniwell At a time when Coloradans are desperately pleading for improved and new roadways the agency in charge of the same, the Colorado Department of Transportation (CDOT), is mired in the greatest crisis of...

glendalecherrycreek.com

Ooof, just read that article. Pretty disgusting.

 

[Danger Noodle]

I work like a dog to stay as young as possible, but every once in awhile, I'm glad I'm old. I'll pass on the distopian future yearned for by so many.

Mark

Man, I'm young and I get to deal with all this bs....

 

[AlpineAccess]

Ooof, just read that article. Pretty disgusting.

It would be, if the guy that wrote it had a foot to stand on. Dude got his talk show dropped from the air after wishing "for a nice school shooting" and is on the attack citing her qualifications as history majors. Charles Bonniwell is a history major himself and is a historian for Glendale. I'm not defending her or how she came by the position other than to say there are two sides of this coin when she is winning over some pretty harsh early critics.

Rep. Paul Lundeen, R-Monument, said the financial matters of CDOT had been so confusing and opaque historically that it was difficult to tell if one dollar was in the same budget more than once. He said a budget process "to my eyes, didn't exist at that time." Lundeen said Tuesday Lew had put "a great plan" in place."

Rep. Lori Saine, R-Dacono, "It's refreshing to hear a million dollars is no longer a rounding error," she said. "That's a good start."

 

[satchel]

It would be, if the guy that wrote it had a foot to stand on. Dude got his talk show dropped from the air after wishing "for a nice school shooting" and is on the attack citing her qualifications as history majors. Charles Bonniwell is a history major himself and is a historian for Glendale. I'm not defending her or how she came by the position other than to say there are two sides of this coin when she is winning over some pretty harsh early critics.

Rep. Paul Lundeen, R-Monument, said the financial matters of CDOT had been so confusing and opaque historically that it was difficult to tell if one dollar was in the same budget more than once. He said a budget process "to my eyes, didn't exist at that time." Lundeen said Tuesday Lew had put "a great plan" in place."

Rep. Lori Saine, R-Dacono, "It's refreshing to hear a million dollars is no longer a rounding error," she said. "That's a good start."

It seemed like a well written article to me, but I agree that you can't always trust one side of the argument. That said, saying he doesn't have a leg to stand on because he made a poor joke off the cuff is stretching a little. I have never heard of the guy before today but wanted to look up the comment over a "school shooting" that you reference. Yes, quite distasteful, but I also don't like living in cancel culture where we look up one dumb post someone said and throw out anything else they have ever said. Then again, I say a lot of dumb stuff, so I may be biased. Hopefully he was dropped for more than that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/19/conservative-radio-host-wishes-colorado-school-shooting-during-trump-impeachment/

 

[AlpineAccess]

It seemed like a well written article to me, but I agree that you can't always trust one side of the argument. That said, saying he doesn't have a leg to stand on because he made a poor joke off the cuff is stretching a little. I have never heard of the guy before today but wanted to look up the comment over a "school shooting" that you reference. Yes, quite distasteful, but I also don't like living in cancel culture where we look up one dumb post someone said and throw out anything else they have ever said. Then again, I say a lot of dumb stuff, so I may be biased. Hopefully he was dropped for more than that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/19/conservative-radio-host-wishes-colorado-school-shooting-during-trump-impeachment/

He has always had plenty of choice statements and headlines to follow that one up with.

He's got a show on a satellite network now, you can always tune in to him and his wife rambling on if you haven't had a good ear bleed in awhile.

 

[IoN6]

It would be, if the guy that wrote it had a foot to stand on. Dude got his talk show dropped from the air after wishing "for a nice school shooting" and is on the attack citing her qualifications as history majors. Charles Bonniwell is a history major himself and is a historian for Glendale. I'm not defending her or how she came by the position other than to say there are two sides of this coin when she is winning over some pretty harsh early critics.

Rep. Paul Lundeen, R-Monument, said the financial matters of CDOT had been so confusing and opaque historically that it was difficult to tell if one dollar was in the same budget more than once. He said a budget process "to my eyes, didn't exist at that time." Lundeen said Tuesday Lew had put "a great plan" in place."

Rep. Lori Saine, R-Dacono, "It's refreshing to hear a million dollars is no longer a rounding error," she said. "That's a good start."

Being an uneducated man myself, I never put creed into anyone's degree. But even less when they have a degree that is obviously for the simple sake of "having a degree". I have a friend who works for Kreamer in a management capacity, who had mentioned exactly what the article said. Tons of ex-CDOT'ers now in consulting gigs... back to CDOT.

That happens plenty in the private sector, and it is bad enough it happens there. But in the public sector, where it is your and I's tax dollars being paid DOUBLY, we should all take notice.

I also have an acquaintance with the FTA who I have asked their opinion of Lew. As you said, everyone is pitching something. It is our duty to verify.

 

[J1000]

I do think electric is the future, it's just the not so soon future. The infrastructure is no where in place to do that. It's OK at the moment but once you get a ton of cars on it its going to be a pain. Bad enough waiting in line at a gas station for 5 minutes for a car, what are you going to do waiting for 30mins per car for a "quick charge"

Not too mention, if we get all these Electric Cars...where exactly is all that electricity coming from? They keep wanting to shut down power plants.

Of the top 10 U.S. electric power plants in 2019, 9 have steam turbines powered by nuclear energy, coal, and natural gas.

Electricity generators by major type and share of total annual U.S. electricity generation in 2019

Generator	Plant type	Main fuel/energy source	Share of annual electricity generation
Steam turbine	Single cycle	All sources	47.7%
		Coal	23.3%
		Nuclear	19.6%
		Natural gas	2.6%
		Biomass (1.1%); Others (1.1%)	2.2%
Multiple	Combined cycle	Natural gas2	32.7%
Combustion turbine			20.9%
Steam turbine			10.4%
Dual/single shaft			1.4%
Combustion gas turbine	Single cycle	Natural gas2	3.3%
Wind turbine	All types	Wind	7.1%
Hydroelectric turbine	Conventional	Water	7.0%
Photovoltaic	All types	Solar	1.7%
Others3		Various	0.6%
Storage systems4		Various	0.1%

Now this is cool as hell...but I can't ever imagine doing it.
Cool thread about a "bolt in" Electric conversion FJ40. They are testing FJ60 as well now. Starting at $65,000. crate electric engine feels like driving 375HP combustion engine.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/electric-tlc-fj-40-build.1040022/



Plus, they already can remotely upgrade/enhance your Tesla from the "mothership" what's stopping all the companies from low power mandates, curfews/usage, tracking, shutting off just like your A/C water heater control from electric company, and at that point tickets for speeding REMOTELY to limit your car to speed limit or charge you for speeding, locking you in the car and driving you to the nearest PO-PO station....

I'm over here with my own tinfoil hat too. Imagine a COVID lockdown except your car asks someone in the internet if it's ok for you to charge it up or go anywhere or file something saying it's an emergency please let me drive my own car or maybe it just limits you to only 40 miles of range maximum.

And you make a great point, the amount of power that you can get from a residential connection is limited and even the best setup will still take about 10 hours to fully charge a Tesla or Taycan let alone the new Hummer with 2x or more battery capacity or what comes after that. As someone who has owned an EV, it really really sucks to be sitting there waiting on your batteries charge so you can go somewhere. I couldn't imagine if I had an EV as my only car and my wife called me with an emergency but I had only 10% or something. Call an Uber?

Don't get me wrong I think we should all have nuclear generators buried in our backyards and then it would be no problem at all.

 

[satchel]

I'm over here with my own tinfoil hat too. Imagine a COVID lockdown except your car asks someone in the internet if it's ok for you to charge it up or go anywhere or file something saying it's an emergency please let me drive my own car or maybe it just limits you to only 40 miles of range maximum.

And you make a great point, the amount of power that you can get from a residential connection is limited and even the best setup will still take about 10 hours to fully charge a Tesla or Taycan let alone the new Hummer with 2x or more battery capacity or what comes after that. As someone who has owned an EV, it really really sucks to be sitting there waiting on your batteries charge so you can go somewhere. I couldn't imagine if I had an EV as my only car and my wife called me with an emergency but I had only 10% or something. Call an Uber?

Don't get me wrong I think we should all have nuclear generators buried in our backyards and then it would be no problem at all

I agree, for a one car family an electric car doesn't make sense at this point. I leased out an electric smart car ($90 a month, don't care how dumb I look) to keep the miles off my trucks in ohio. It was amazing for what I needed, was cheaper than my previous gas bill, and could park anywhere. I charged it overnight on 110 and it was good to go, and was nice and toasty when I got in it every morning. Pretty much 80 miles a day on overnight charging.

But... there will always be an ICE vehicle in my garage out of nostalgia if not necessity.

 

[AlpineAccess]

Why do you think Tesla is rapidly developing solar tiles and power walls. It's expensive right now, just like their initial cars were, but when scaled (gigafactory, new solar tile raw materials) the end goal is it to be incredibly economical.

Outside everyone's opinions on the efficacy of current tech, because I work in finance (M&A) and we just watch where the big money goes. IT's been common knowledge that residential grids aren't set up for folks to do 60-80 amp charging on cars when entire developments are built with homes with 100-200 amp service, and the money is going into development and manufacturing of micro grid technology.

Power walls, smart switching, sub station tech, residential, development, municipal solar, etc. etc. etc.

I'll just leave this here for anyone who's interested. I saw some consolidations happen a number of years ago and my alternative ETF's have been going to the moon.

Alternative Energy Equities ETFs

25 ETFs are placed in the Alternative Energy Equities Category. Click to see Returns, Expenses, Dividends, Holdings, Taxes, Technicals and more.

etfdb.com

 

[satchel]

Speaking of solar, I just had a system installed on Monday by Photon Brothers to offset my electrical needs. If anyone is thinking about it, I believe 2021 is the last year of the tax credit, 22% of the cost.

 

[White Stripe]

I read somewhere that solar panels degrade every year. Not sure if that's correct.

 

[satchel]

I read somewhere that solar panels degrade every year. Not sure if that's correct.

That is correct. Just looked up the info on my panels, and they are estimated to still have 92% of their efficiency after 25 years.

 

[AlpineAccess]

That is correct. Just looked up the info on my panels, and they are estimated to still have 92% of their efficiency after 25 years.

Pretty phenomenal compared to the older panels. Keeps getting better.

Battery tech is leaps and bounds every year. Unbelievable how fast it's moving. My new work phone charges three times as fast as the one I bought two years ago.

 

[satchel]

Yes, and I guess there is some sort of new tech in these panels where they still generate power when a portion of the panel is shaded, an issue with older models.

My main hang up on going solar was that it takes 10 years to break even and I wasn't sure I'd be still in the same place after the 10 years, but these guys will move them if you need to.

 

[SteveH]

Summary of the new CARB-compliant cats required (if replaced) on Colorado vehicles. Thanks, Dems.

As of January 1, 2021, all sales or installations of aftermarket catalytic converters for any model year vehicle in Colorado must comply with Air Quality Control Commission Regulation Number 20, 5 CCR 1001-24. Either replacement catalytic converters must be original equipment from the manufacturer (OEM), or a new aftermarket catalytic converter certified as meeting California’s Air Resources Board (CARB) emissions standards.

Aftermarket catalytic converters | Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment

cdphe.colorado.gov