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Toyota LC 300 Series

OilHammer

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Should be interesting. Lots of manufacturers being forced from big NA engines to smaller turbo ones. I don't really think that's a bad thing, especially for those of us that live at altitude. Funny thing though, Porsche tried this with the Boxster/Cayman line and it failed miserably. They were forced to drop the turbo 4's and go back to NA flat 6's. Not for fuel economy but for buyer appeal!
 

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Should be interesting. Lots of manufacturers being forced from big NA engines to smaller turbo ones. I don't really think that's a bad thing, especially for those of us that live at altitude. Funny thing though, Porsche tried this with the Boxster/Cayman line and it failed miserably. They were forced to drop the turbo 4's and go back to NA flat 6's. Not for fuel economy but for buyer appeal!

I will take a turbo any day of the week at altitude. It is about 3% per thousand feet for a NA engine. I would like to not be down 15% horse power in Denver on my 300 series before I even drive it to a trail.
 

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Can't wait to see what the new LC looks like.
 

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Fingers crossed...

A Toyota insider tells us that, at least in the US, the company intends to sell the new Land Cruiser exclusively with five seats and to position it as a “serious off-roader” without the current model's emphasis on luxury. This should translate to a lower base price than the 2021 SUV's $85,515 (plus a $995 destination fee). There's even a report about the possibility of an even more rugged GR version.
 

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i loath v6s. while turbos are great in the mtns you can't replace displacement.
 

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Can't wait to see what the new LC looks like.
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Sounds like they did away with the rear split gate as well.
 

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Too bad it will as wide as the current 200 series and heavier...
 

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Looks like the front end of a current 200 mated with the back end of a Prado/GX. I agree that the loss of the tailgate would not be a good thing. I love the LC tailgate.
 

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Looks like it will be on Toyota’s new global platform. Which I need pictures of to understand.
 

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Looks like it will be on Toyota’s new global platform. Which I need pictures of to understand.
The unibody/TNGA design? I heard that too. Sounds like the Tundra and Sequoia might head the same direction as well...
 

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Prius, Tundra,
The unibody/TNGA design? I heard that too. Sounds like the Tundra and Sequoia might head the same direction as well...

All about the Prius.
 

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There is a different platform called TNGA-F which will underpin the body on frame vehicles, so it will not be the same platform as passenger vehicles. The Tundra should be the first vehicle we see in the US using TNGA-F.

I don't dislike the 300 styling, but it seems like a stopgap measure before the next iteration is either a strong hybrid or EV. That will require lots of packaging changes, and I would imagine that's why Toyota doesn't feel it's worth the hassle to bring the Toyota version of the 300 to the US even though it appears it will come here in Lexus form.
 

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It's the TNGA-F platform, retaining a ladder frame that can fit up to a V6. Same will be used for Tundra.
 

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Well I hope they sell more of the 300 than the 200. In all reality the 200 wasn't appealing to most people.
 

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There is a different platform called TNGA-F which will underpin the body on frame vehicles, so it will not be the same platform as passenger vehicles. The Tundra should be the first vehicle we see in the US using TNGA-F.

I don't dislike the 300 styling, but it seems like a stopgap measure before the next iteration is either a strong hybrid or EV. That will require lots of packaging changes, and I would imagine that's why Toyota doesn't feel it's worth the hassle to bring the Toyota version of the 300 to the US even though it appears it will come here in Lexus form.
You think you'll upgrade to the 300 when it comes out? What are the selling points for you?
 
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