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Electrolytic Rust Removal

subzali

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Haven't started to tackle rust yet..

I tell ya what though, this place looks like they have some nice parts: http://pacolonline.com/

I was leaning away from CCOT... so this is refreshing!

Thanks Steve and EWheeler!

Hm...inner door skins, lower outer door skins, floor patch under driver's side, rear fender wells, rear sill, bezel (with stamped Land Cruiser in it)...my shopping list is growing :o (and my pretend wallet is shrinking rapidly) - it looks like most of those prices are pretty reasonable, but they add up fast :eek:

...they got lots of neat body parts - door sills, b pillar, WHOLE TUBS if you need...

It looks like this is Oscar Florez - at least they claim to be, if you scroll to the bottom the zaskar_ofn username is the email that Oscar Florez has...

cool :cool:
 

subzali

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sweet...nice looking products...

...and of course there's the old standby of CCOT. Marco, you said you were staying away from them? What reasons?
 

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sweet...nice looking products...

...and of course there's the old standby of CCOT. Marco, you said you were staying away from them? What reasons?


I've had good luck with their service. They are responsive and seem really nice on the phone.

Some of the non toyota OEM stuff I've gotten from them seems kinda low quality.... They seem to have good feedback on their body panels though so that's a plus. I don't mind buying from them, I just have to know that what I am getting might be a pretty cheap aftermarket part.
 

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Rzeppa

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Is Rocky Mountain Cruisers still in business?
http://rockym.fatcow.com/store/steel.html

Ron has had the business up for sale since this past summer when he and his wife decided to retire to Costa Rica. I was very tempted to buy and operate the business, and Timm Buchanan was also interested. Ron wanted to sell and move by the end of October. I heard a rumor that an out of town buyer was interested and might move the shop elsewhere in CO, or perhaps out of state. I do not know the latest word.

I do know that he did not stock much parts locally for sale through their web store, but took orders and then middle manned them from the usual suppliers to his customers.
 

corsair23

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So does that mean you are no longer considering buying the business Jeff? :(
 

rover67

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Bummer dude, that'd been sweet.
 

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Hey Marco, I was thinking about trying this technique to derust an old crosscut saw blade. But, I thought I read in the link that you posted that it can make the steel brittle. Have you experienced this? Thanks!
 

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Whoa, I just lost my post somehow...

fumble fingers I guess...

Yes, it can make the steel brittle if you are working with a harder steel. It's called hydrogen embrittlement. We deal with it a lot in our industry since the chromium coating process for our instruments introduces a fair amount of hydrogen to the surface. It's addressed by simply baking the part at 375F for 8 hours.

FWIW though I've read that the electrolytic rust removal process dosen't cause nearly the problems that the electrodeposited coatings do. I've not really seen anything on the web where folks have had issues with the derusted parts and I've read about them doing stuff like saw blades. It affects the harder alloys more.

I'll pull the SAE AMS spec for hydrogen embrittlement relief and give it a read a bit later on. It'll probably give a better definition of what materials really need baking and which don't.

I don't think I'd worry about it too much though.

Also, if you don't want to set it all up I can take it from you ar the meeting and stick it in my tank. It'd be pretty easy..
 

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That would be awesome! Thanks man. I'm still not sure if I'll be at the meeting Wednesday since Kim is due on Thursday. I'll let you know!

:beer:
 

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In case anybody was curious....

Here is the table with bake times for chemical treated, etched, or coated parts. Looks like the electrolytic rust removal probably falls into the "chem" category.

Also, in the spec it stated that these bake times only apply for materials that are 40HRC or 180ksi or more. Materials that are not that hard aren't as suceptible to hydrogen embritlement.
 

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