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Electrolytic Rust Removal

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Fuel pickup for the old tank out of the FJ60, I pulled that tank out to swap it with the LRA 40 gallon tank a while back and somebody on mud is interested in the pickup.
 

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Wow! What a difference!

yeah, I think this is the kind of stuff the technique works great on. I'll keep my tank outside of the garage and probably use it to derust little stuff as it comes off fo the 40.

What I liked the most about the process is it get's rusted on fasteners loose REALLY well. The front bib I did had the screws for the bezel broken off in it because they were rusted in there and somebody just tried to force them out. After derusting it the broken off bolt peices literally came out with my fingers spinning the tiny exposed piece. Really unbelievable.
 

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I'm glad this isn't the only way to remove broken bolts. My rear crossmember had two broken bolts in it from the bumperettes and I was having a hard time figuring out how to get my rear crossmember in a tub of electrolyte...

...well a few days ago I sprayed them with PB Blaster and tonight I put a vise grips on the threads that were sticking through the tacked nuts and they both were loose! One continued all the way through the nut and the other I had to carefully back out until I could grab the broken end on the outside of the crossmember and I was able to get it all the way out too! Now I can move on with my project!

...but I don't want to hijack Marco's thread - one of these days hopefully I'll have the opportunity to try it for myself on some parts...super cool. So what else have you done Marco? :D
 

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Lets see.. this week has been busy.

Got the extra FJ60 chrome wheels, the front bezel, and lots of random bits and peices at the powder coaters getting done. Thanks to Mike I finally decided to do the bezel and wheels in cygnus white. I don't knwo why that was such a hard decision for me. The rest of the bits are gonna be gloss black (air cleaner, front bib screen, ect.)

Dropped the seats off to get rebuilt at the trim shop on wed. they are getting fresh foam, new covers, broken springs fixed, and heating elements. Should be comfy now.

Bought a stainless tray from www.stainlesstrays.com and a deka group 27 battery. Got some kick a$$ cables made up for the starter and gounds, got an auxiliary fuse box with a switched side from Mike after the meeting wed. Gotta get those heated seats juice somehow. It'll be ready for a CB and lights too.

Got a bunch of emissions doodads from Elliot (thanks Elliot!!). Ordered 20ft. of OEM Vacuum hose from Stevenson to replace what is on the truck. 28 bucks for it... not bad.

Now I gotta make another stop at Boulder toyota for more bits before I get those things put back together.

The front Bib is gonna need more work, and I want to rebuild the windshield frame before putting those on. That will be a heck of a project.

Unfortunatly I will be out of town for a week, so the project is on hold for now.... But it makes it easy to wait on the powdercoaters and seat guy :)
 

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You're going to love the heated seats, just make sure you wire them to the switched on side, not the always on side. Otherwise in time you'll end up with a dead battery and a dead seat heater.. AMHIK! :)

but I'm jealous of the 40 project dude, keep it up! :thumb:
 

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I agree. Based on what I saw before hand, it's pretty impressive (unless of course Xcel hits you with a $500 electric bill).
Figure you pay about a nickel per kW-hr. So Marco's 40A welder consumes 8.8 kW (I assume it's 220 V). If he ran it for 2 full days that's 422.4 kW-hr, so about $21 for the energy.
 

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Figure you pay about a nickel per kW-hr. So Marco's 40A welder consumes 8.8 kW (I assume it's 220 V). If he ran it for 2 full days that's 422.4 kW-hr, so about $21 for the energy.

not as bad as I thought...

small partss are where i've found it's great though, and those are typically done in 6 hours at about 6 amps average.
 

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Sounds like you're doing a great job, Marco. Can't wait to see the progress as it starts to come together. Have you started repairing rust on the tub yet? I would really like to help out if needed and see how it's done first hand. :thumb:
 

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Haven't started to tackle rust yet..

I tell ya what though, this place looks like they have some nice parts: http://pacolonline.com/

I was leaning away from CCOT... so this is refreshing!

Thanks Steve and EWheeler!
 

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Haven't started to tackle rust yet..

I tell ya what though, this place looks like they have some nice parts: http://pacolonline.com/

I was leaning away from CCOT... so this is refreshing!

Thanks Steve and EWheeler!

Good find! I might need a drivers floor patch.
 

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Figure you pay about a nickel per kW-hr. So Marco's 40A welder consumes 8.8 kW (I assume it's 220 V). If he ran it for 2 full days that's 422.4 kW-hr, so about $21 for the energy.

Electric power has been running between $0.09 to $0.11 per kWH here for the last several years. Most of mine is consumed by the air compressor and welder :eek:
 

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Dropped the seats off to get rebuilt at the trim shop on wed. they are getting fresh foam, new covers, broken springs fixed, and heating elements. Should be comfy now.

Where?

I tell ya what though, this place looks like they have some nice parts: http://pacolonline.com/

This is terrible me forgetting his name but he's a really good guy. I have wheeled with him and his family at CM several times. He has a factory in Central America making these. Names, anyone? He wheels a tan 40, drove it from Georgia first time, trailered last time.
 

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Electric power has been running between $0.09 to $0.11 per kWH here for the last several years. Most of mine is consumed by the air compressor and welder :eek:
That's true, our rate is regular residential general from Xcel, which is 5.36 cents per kW-hr. But with all the fees, taxes and 'adjustments' we pay about 12.5 cents per kW-hr total.
 

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This is terrible me forgetting his name but he's a really good guy. I have wheeled with him and his family at CM several times. He has a factory in Central America making these. Names, anyone? He wheels a tan 40, drove it from Georgia first time, trailered last time.

Oscar Florez. He seemed like a real nice, neat guy. Did Hells Revenge with him and Farnham before CM'08. I couldn't remember the name of his company, but I know he does reproduction parts too. I was trying to look around for it when Marco posted this up...
 

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That's true, our rate is regular residential general from Xcel, which is 5.36 cents per kW-hr. But with all the fees, taxes and 'adjustments' we pay about 12.5 cents per kW-hr total.

I take the dollars and divide by the kWH. Just a bottom-line kind of mind-set :-)

What good is $0.06/KWH if it costs $43,793 for distribution, taxes and fees?

:lmao:
 

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This is terrible me forgetting his name but he's a really good guy. I have wheeled with him and his family at CM several times. He has a factory in Central America making these. Names, anyone? He wheels a tan 40, drove it from Georgia first time, trailered last time.

I went to this guy.

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He was recomended by another shop that specializes in furniture.

I picked it because it was close and he seemed nice.

I'll post up what it looks like when he's done. i think he's supposed to finish this week sometime.
 
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I achieved the same thing using citric acid powder.(you can buy it by the oz. at finer grocery stores, Here in Phoenix the store is called Sprouts Market) I used 8 oz. in this tub to clean up the surface rust on my old Robinson cruiser. Took it ALL off and left it shiny, without even messing up the frame stickers. I was really impressed after a 24 hour soak. No residue either. Just an alternative.
 

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I achieved the same thing using citric acid powder.(you can buy it by the oz. at finer grocery stores, Here in Phoenix the store is called Sprouts Market) I used 8 oz. in this tub to clean up the surface rust on my old Robinson cruiser. Took it ALL off and left it shiny, without even messing up the frame stickers. I was really impressed after a 24 hour soak. No residue either. Just an alternative.
 

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I agree. Based on what I saw before hand, it's pretty impressive (unless of course Xcel hits you with a $500 electric bill).

Will sand blasting be able to get into that pinched crease?


Bill for last month when I did all of this was 48 bucks for electricity (388KW hours). Not really that different from the month before that..

I have been using this technique to clean the plated parts on the engine, getting th erust off before taking them to get replated. Seems to be working well. They sit outside and derust while I work in the garage on other stuff. I like it so far.
 
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