Denver engine swap - getting it legal?

[DaveInDenver]

How is the 22R rebuild going? Talk about “ain’t nuthin.” 😜

Part pile level: done(ish)

 

[Crash]

Part pile level: done(ish)

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Lotta bubblewrap in those boxes? The boxes take up more space than the engine itself. 👍

 

[DaveInDenver]

Lotta bubblewrap in those boxes? The boxes take up more space than the engine itself. 👍

The bottom one does have the top half of a 22R in it...

 

[Crash]

The bottom one does have the top half of a 22R in it...

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Oooh, pretty and shiny. Nothing much better than fresh head.
EDIT: …a fresh head.

 

[Cruisertrash]

The bottom one does have the top half of a 22R in it...

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That’s purdy!

 

[justin4045]

Check out my tests on my 2H. Made a world of difference.

2H Dyno tests

I've got a 1981 HJ47 Troopy 2H 4 speed that I recently added a 12HT turbo set up to (exhaust manifold, Toyota CT26 Turbo, internal wastegate at about 8 PSI, downpipe into a 2.5 exhaust no muffler exits behind the passenger rear tire.) I used a custom cross over pipe that was planned for use with...

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[Cruisertrash]

Check out my tests on my 2H. Made a world of difference.

2H Dyno tests

I've got a 1981 HJ47 Troopy 2H 4 speed that I recently added a 12HT turbo set up to (exhaust manifold, Toyota CT26 Turbo, internal wastegate at about 8 PSI, downpipe into a 2.5 exhaust no muffler exits behind the passenger rear tire.) I used a custom cross over pipe that was planned for use with...

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Holy smokes. The torque curve pre-turbo is a monster - just a slab of torque no matter where you’re at in the rev range. And then a huge change afterwards with the turbo on, pretty close to double all the way around at 8psi.

That would be a great indicator for me except … I spoke with Raymond at the Department of Health today, he runs the emissions testing program for the state of Colorado, and makes determinations on import vehicles and engine swaps. Here’s what he had to say:

1. You can import a vehicle with its original engine and equipment intact, and get it on the road.

2. You can have a USDM vehicle and do a USDM engine swap so long as it’s an engine newer than the vehicle. There are some swaps you can’t do but it’s rare (a guy tried to put a Caterpillar diesel into a pickup, that got denied), but almost always writhing reason it can be done.

3. You cannot under any circumstances put a non-USDM motor in a USDM vehicle. Doesn’t matter if the US vehicle is identical to one you could import with that motor as original equipment. Doesn’t matter if the engine is newer than the vehicle. Big fat NOPE in the entire state of Colorado, not just the AirCare areas.


So there’s my answer. @Crash gets his way and I rebuild this spare 2F. 😜
…Soon I’ll be looking at imports though. Or an address in another state. Maybe in a year or two.

 

[Crash]

Holy smokes. The torque curve pre-turbo is a monster - just a slab of torque no matter where you’re at in the rev range. And then a huge change afterwards with the turbo on, pretty close to double all the way around at 8psi.

That would be a great indicator for me except … I spoke with Raymond at the Department of Health today, he runs the emissions testing program for the state of Colorado, and makes determinations on import vehicles and engine swaps. Here’s what he had to say:

1. You can import a vehicle with its original engine and equipment intact, and get it on the road.

2. You can have a USDM vehicle and do a USDM engine swap so long as it’s an engine newer than the vehicle. There are some swaps you can’t do but it’s rare (a guy tried to put a Caterpillar diesel into a pickup, that got denied), but almost always writhing reason it can be done.

3. You cannot under any circumstances put a non-USDM motor in a USDM vehicle. Doesn’t matter if the US vehicle is identical to one you could import with that motor as original equipment. Doesn’t matter if the engine is newer than the vehicle. Big fat NOPE in the entire state of Colorado, not just the AirCare areas.


So there’s my answer. @Crash gets his way and I rebuild this spare 2F. 😜
…Soon I’ll be looking at imports though. Or an address in another state. Maybe in a year or two.

I will follow you on the trail with the 2F. Diesel? Nuh unh. I followed Zepp in some diesel powered Cruiser on Chrystal(?) Mountain way back when for a few miles. Never again.

 

[Cruisertrash]

I will follow you on the trail with the 2F. Diesel? Nuh unh. I followed Zepp in some diesel powered Cruiser on Chrystal(?) Mountain way back when for a few miles. Never again.

You shouldn’t be following me though, Steve. Never ever.

 

[Crash]

You shouldn’t be following me though, Steve. Never ever.

Oh, it will happen and I’m sure I’ll learn something. 😁

 

[Cruisertrash]

Also, @Crash, check out Justin’s dyno numbers on the post a few above. Even in non-turbo form that slab of torque would be so much easier to drive than a 2F. And then after the turbo? Even better. Far less maintenance too. And stock in a 60 Series, as the Toyota gods intended.

No love lost for the 2F though. It’s dumb enough for me to know how to work on, and I’m dumb enough not to mess it up.

 

[stusic]

You shouldn’t be following me though, Steve. Never ever.

It's the only way to ensure we show up at the same time.

 

[Rzeppa]

I will follow you on the trail with the 2F. Diesel? Nuh unh. I followed Zepp in some diesel powered Cruiser on Chrystal(?) Mountain way back when for a few miles. Never again.

Uncle Ben was following me on Slaughterhouse one time before I rebuilt the F in my '71, it was putting out some serious blue smoke. He complained, but I explained that it wanted to be a diesel when it grew up.

 

[Doughboy]

2. You can have a USDM vehicle and do a USDM engine swap so long as it’s an engine newer than the vehicle. There are some swaps you can’t do but it’s rare (a guy tried to put a Caterpillar diesel into a pickup, that got denied), but almost always writhing reason it can be done.

3. You cannot under any circumstances put a non-USDM motor in a USDM vehicle. Doesn’t matter if the US vehicle is identical to one you could import with that motor as original equipment. Doesn’t matter if the engine is newer than the vehicle. Big fat NOPE in the entire state of Colorado, not just the AirCare areas.

but what mama don't know, won't hurt her.

 

[Cruisertrash]

but what mama don't know, won't hurt her.

Until it’s time to get plates or make an insurance claim. I’m not really willing to risk loss of the truck for a diesel motor … I’ll just have to import one with the motor already in it.