Red_Chili
Hard Core 4+
I had a 5VZ-FE on an HB cheapie. The only complaint was the wheels didn't like it. It stressed it but it worked.
22R-E Chain Cost and Advice
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Red_Chili
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You've got the disease!
I ride Light Rail past a powdercoat outfit east of Santa Fe every day, just north of Belleview IIRC. I'd say, commodity service these days.
I ride Light Rail past a powdercoat outfit east of Santa Fe every day, just north of Belleview IIRC. I'd say, commodity service these days.
isotel
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looks farmiliar, i just did this to my brothers truck 89 runner with 22re.. The guides broke in the same exact way.. Except yours apear to be the Steel backed guides with non oem bolts.. i guess the steel ones are not that much better than the stockers.. The timming chaing cover looked just like yours, Replace it with a new one! $50 is what i paid.. toyotacarpart.com (local in CSprings)
Red_Chili
Hard Core 4+
Engnbldr.com can get you a new timing cover for cheap too...
Red_Chili
Hard Core 4+
engnbldr.com. They won't do you wrong. Really. I would never spend $300 on a timing cover.
A Toy shortblock was $1400 employee cost about 4 years ago, so it couldn't have gone up $600 retail since then...
A Toy shortblock was $1400 employee cost about 4 years ago, so it couldn't have gone up $600 retail since then...
Ouch. Looks like a rebuild is in your future.
Dave, I just PM'd you.
Red_Chili
Hard Core 4+
You might want to look at your tensioner. Imagine how short lived the stock plastic guides would have been!
Red_Chili
Hard Core 4+
I thought the compression was good? If the hone marks are still visible, I'm not sure I would necessarily rebuild it - especially if the budget is tight. Just sayin'.
But a quality master kit with pistons is on sale for $219, the additional cost of machining would not be outlandish. Especially if all that is needed is a hone to break the ridge. You could go with the new head casting, thicker than stock where it needs to be, with oversized SS valves and an RV cam, make rockin' power, and still never come close to the price of the new shortblock!
Rzeppa
Rising Sun Member
Hey Dave, speaking of the local guy, what did Joe Calleja say?
Red_Chili
Hard Core 4+
Really, don't lump Ted in with LCE or DOA. Not the same at all. I can point to several who have been burned by LCE and DOA, but not even one by EB. I am extremely picky (ask Rude-boy) but would not hesitate to use Ted or Todd's parts and advice. And it just so happens they are the most competitive, not by cutting quality, but by direct vendor relationship.
Remember, the 'mother ship' uses all kinds of vendors for subassemblies, they have to be within spec but even that gets missed sometimes (headgasket vendors from 1990-1996 come to mind, eh? Even affected the 5VZ, it was definitely the HG in that case).
A man designed it, a man made it, a man can screw it up - and a man can fix it too. Simple assemblies. Measure twice. Don't cut corners and buy from those who also do not cut corners.
On your tensioner, the bleed hole can get plugged, clearances can get loose, etc. Your oil pump can get weary too! Didn't know about the knock, but if you can get a turbo pump while you are at it, that might be worthwhile.
That head, if you got it loaded with the slightly oversize SS valves, and the RV cam, and fresh rockers, will make significant power increases without stressing anything at all, and will do so for a couple hundred thousand miles if you go with Ted's master kit and the machine work on the shortblock is done right.
Remember, the 'mother ship' uses all kinds of vendors for subassemblies, they have to be within spec but even that gets missed sometimes (headgasket vendors from 1990-1996 come to mind, eh? Even affected the 5VZ, it was definitely the HG in that case).
A man designed it, a man made it, a man can screw it up - and a man can fix it too. Simple assemblies. Measure twice. Don't cut corners and buy from those who also do not cut corners.
On your tensioner, the bleed hole can get plugged, clearances can get loose, etc. Your oil pump can get weary too! Didn't know about the knock, but if you can get a turbo pump while you are at it, that might be worthwhile.
That head, if you got it loaded with the slightly oversize SS valves, and the RV cam, and fresh rockers, will make significant power increases without stressing anything at all, and will do so for a couple hundred thousand miles if you go with Ted's master kit and the machine work on the shortblock is done right.
Three Wheel Ben
Trail Ready
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I used to live in pdx and ted was the toy specialist when it came to engine work. Haven't heard anything bad yet.
So Dave, did you pull the trigger? It was a cool coincidence to run into you at Burt.
Red_Chili
Hard Core 4+
No advantage whatsoever to a Toyota timing chain cover. I'd rather go new than used personally, but YMMV.
I can promise you that the plastic OEM guides did not outlast the metal ones because of the guides! It was another cause.
Clutch- Toyota reman. is your best cost/benefit choice.
So you bought a Toyota shortblock? Wow...
It will be good, but... $$$.
Red_Chili
Hard Core 4+
Let me guess...
You're an engineer, ain'tcha?
You're an engineer, ain'tcha?
treerootCO
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If Dave did anything to my 2F, I can tell you he did it correctly. What am I up to now Dave? 500,000 miles?
Red_Chili
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BTW, I was just teasing.
Only an engineer would have a 25 year plan including the final debugging of the (by then) antique 5VZ.
It should be a bunch lighter by then too! All the heavy bodywork will have been returned to nature.
Only an engineer would have a 25 year plan including the final debugging of the (by then) antique 5VZ.
It should be a bunch lighter by then too! All the heavy bodywork will have been returned to nature.
Red_Chili
Hard Core 4+
Me too. Obviously you can't go wrong with new rockers. (BTW, new tappets are cheap and a very good mtce. item to do now.)
But Ted has waaaaaay more experience than I do with such things.
If you follow his advice, and the cam craps out because of it, you can expect a branny new cam. But like I've said, Ted has forgotten more than most folks will ever know about 22REs.
I used to work at the rocket ranch. QA for Peacekeeper, flight and ground equipment, as well as electronic welded assemblies, 5 lb. NOT gates, etc. for Titan launch vehicles. They had to contract with Motorola to retool for 1960s transistors that had already qual tested.
I came up with an idea for cleaning leads. They evaluated it, and the program gave us 10% of the first year's savings for any ideas.
Two months after I quit I got a check for $1K. Not a bad idea I guess...
But Ted has waaaaaay more experience than I do with such things.
If you follow his advice, and the cam craps out because of it, you can expect a branny new cam. But like I've said, Ted has forgotten more than most folks will ever know about 22REs.
I used to work at the rocket ranch. QA for Peacekeeper, flight and ground equipment, as well as electronic welded assemblies, 5 lb. NOT gates, etc. for Titan launch vehicles. They had to contract with Motorola to retool for 1960s transistors that had already qual tested.
I came up with an idea for cleaning leads. They evaluated it, and the program gave us 10% of the first year's savings for any ideas.
Two months after I quit I got a check for $1K. Not a bad idea I guess...
leiniesred
Hard Core 4+
Red Chili = extremely picky
yeah. Bill only does things one way, the right way. I on the other hand, only do things the hard way.
yeah. Bill only does things one way, the right way. I on the other hand, only do things the hard way.
Red_Chili
Hard Core 4+
Thereby saving me from having to do so.... 