• RS MAY CLUB MEETING
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Rising Sun Driving Skills

Would you be interested in improving your 4x4 driving skills and attend a class to do so?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 76.5%
  • No

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Depends on exactly what the focus is

    Votes: 8 23.5%
  • Experience is all that matters

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    34
  • Poll closed .

AlpineAccess

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as for me I guess only practice helps in development of driving skills
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jps8460

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Soniabell is trolling every body
Haha, but there is a lot of truth in what they are sayin. However, it never hurts to take a bit of direction on how to do something. As they say, perfect practice makes perfect or something like that.
 

fyffer

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It's not my (MC and BB built) Rig, it's ME. But my ultimate goal is to get here.

(hope the link works, not good at sharing/linking stuff, IT deprived).

60's in action, so very capable, "sticking it",well that is a little tougher I've heard and certainly noticed.

So share us the plan, Stan. Need skills
 

3rdGen4R

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It's not my (MC and BB built) Rig, it's ME. But my ultimate goal is to get here.

(hope the link works, not good at sharing/linking stuff, IT deprived).

60's in action, so very capable, "sticking it",well that is a little tougher I've heard and certainly noticed.

So share us the plan, Stan. Need skills

Interesting video. I think it all comes down to some of the senior guys coming together to do some sort of day. Jackson does the Newbies day, and I'm not entirely sure if he wants to do more than that. But there are plenty of other guys like Andy, Jeff Zep, Andy (@Notyourmomslx450) Dan @MountainGoat , and others that probably would enjoy sharing some of the stuff they have learned over the years.
 

DaveInDenver

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Start small and work your way up. That’s why I said practice practice practice. It’s tough to feel what your vehicle is doing, how it’s responding if you’re too overwhelmed by the situation. Keep driving
That's solid advice. One thing I think made the old timers good was they started with stock trucks, open diffs with 235/75R15 street tires. You figure out momentum and tire placement quick, get a feel for driving and what works and what doesn't. You and the truck improve together, you know, share kombucha and baby talk with it.
 

3rdGen4R

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That's solid advice. One thing I think made the old timers good was they started with stock trucks, open diffs with 235/75R15 street tires. You figure out momentum and tire placement quick, get a feel for driving and what works and what doesn't. You and the truck improve together, you know, share kombucha and baby talk with it.

I totally agree that starting with a stock truck is the way to go. I started by going to a trip to Moab with my wife over 5 or 6 years ago now. We did chickens corners in our stock 4runner. I decided the next year we would come back with a lift and we did. We came back with new tires and big lift. Never used my center locker until probably 6 or 7 trips into off-roading. So I do think that you don't need all the toys I have now because I was able to figure it out without all of them. One of the advantages to building your truck as you need stuff is you figure out why. But I do think it would be interesting to focus on driving for a full day with experienced people to see what I already know and what I've never thought about.
 

Inukshuk

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That's solid advice. One thing I think made the old timers good was they started with stock trucks, open diffs with 235/75R15 street tires. You figure out momentum and tire placement quick, get a feel for driving and what works and what doesn't. You and the truck improve together, you know, share kombucha and baby talk with it.
You realize you are now an old time (me too LOL! I learned on a VW Thing, stock FJ40, and open diff FJ60 on 31's)
 

3rdGen4R

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You realize you are now an old time (me too LOL! I learned on a VW Thing, stock FJ40, and open diff FJ60 on 31's)
Daniel, would you be interested in helping as well? If we find the right weekend?
 

Inukshuk

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fyffer

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I totally agree that starting with a stock truck is the way to go. I started by going to a trip to Moab with my wife over 5 or 6 years ago now. We did chickens corners in our stock 4runner. I decided the next year we would come back with a lift and we did. We came back with new tires and big lift. Never used my center locker until probably 6 or 7 trips into off-roading. So I do think that you don't need all the toys I have now because I was able to figure it out without all of them. One of the advantages to building your truck as you need stuff is you figure out why. But I do think it would be interesting to focus on driving for a full day with experienced people to see what I already know and what I've never thought about.
So I got a little hooked driving an off-road stock edition -07 pathfinder, Grand Mesa multiple trails, unknowingly also on an ATV trail (very narrow). Did Imogene and found it quite easy and didn't understand the fuzz. So, well got the 60, my friend and member Brian helped (thanks God). So did Chinamans 2 times, reasonably well. The 3rd time, cleared all the harder obstacles, but heading out took a bad line and did a 180 (hence now an -84.5). Back for a 4th time (I just had too), turned out good.
But ever since that 3rd trip my confidence has suffered a great deal. Gone out with the Club and on my own, trails rated around 5 I'm ok with. But looking at some MOAB vids, my stomach turns as vertigo is also an issue, but want to do it really bad. Agree, need a whole lot of practice, practice and then some more of it. Stalling issues are some of my worst fears, this and Clutching, a cause to the spill is my greatest weakness.
Any help and advice with this would be greatly appreciative, the more the bestest. I'll drive to just about anywhere to learn, but not in to Snow wheeling.

Not a leg 😉
 

3rdGen4R

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So I got a little hooked driving an off-road stock edition -07 pathfinder, Grand Mesa multiple trails, unknowingly also on an ATV trail (very narrow). Did Imogene and found it quite easy and didn't understand the fuzz. So, well got the 60, my friend and member Brian helped (thanks God). So did Chinamans 2 times, reasonably well. The 3rd time, cleared all the harder obstacles, but heading out took a bad line and did a 180 (hence now an -84.5). Back for a 4th time (I just had too), turned out good.
But ever since that 3rd trip my confidence has suffered a great deal. Gone out with the Club and on my own, trails rated around 5 I'm ok with. But looking at some MOAB vids, my stomach turns as vertigo is also an issue, but want to do it really bad. Agree, need a whole lot of practice, practice and then some more of it. Stalling issues are some of my worst fears, this and Clutching, a cause to the spill is my greatest weakness.
Any help and advice with this would be greatly appreciative, the more the bestest. I'll drive to just about anywhere to learn, but not in to Snow wheeling.

Not a leg 😉
Not a leg... No one is going to understand that but me.... That's great! Well this could be something really fun to put together and we'll get enough notice out to everyone we can hopefully give everyone enough time to plan.

That 60 is a beast, and it's heavy, and long. I can't help but wonder what that would be like compared to my light 3rdgen 4runner. So interesting!
 

nakman

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That 60 is a beast, and it's heavy, and long. I can't help but wonder what that would be like compared to my light 3rdgen 4runner. So interesting!
It's faster. much faster...

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But way more important than the truck is the loose nut behind the wheel. And hey if someone get a hankerin to lead something here, this would be a great add to our club Argentine day in June... no reason you can't share techniques & survey campsites at the same time, would make for some good debriefs during camping/happy hour also, great way to double down on that run.
 
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