HoneyBadger
Rising Sun Member
Because we would be doing this...
https://www.facebook.com/nastytrucksnation/videos/966794486730456/
https://www.facebook.com/nastytrucksnation/videos/966794486730456/
This is why we don't need diesels...
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PabloCruise
Hard Core 4+
Winning!
Think he's rolling coal on purpose?
I love that little 4bt pickup.
I had big aspirations to 4bt my 1500 Ram but never scraped together enough loose change.
The 5.9 that's going in will spice it up though. Was a 5.2 which new is 230hp/295 ftlbs @ 4000rpm. It's getting a rebuilt 5.9 that should push over 250hp/ 350 ftlbs @ 3250rpm or less. The higher power at lower RPMs is crucial with Dodges gearing.
I had big aspirations to 4bt my 1500 Ram but never scraped together enough loose change.
The 5.9 that's going in will spice it up though. Was a 5.2 which new is 230hp/295 ftlbs @ 4000rpm. It's getting a rebuilt 5.9 that should push over 250hp/ 350 ftlbs @ 3250rpm or less. The higher power at lower RPMs is crucial with Dodges gearing.
Lmao what an insane set of tires for donuts.
Diesel drivers who are “rolling coal” in Colorado: Tune up or pay up
State lawmakers called practice mean
Diesel pickup truck drivers in Colorado who illegally tweak their engines to blast out black smoke can now be fined $100 for the practice.
By BRUCE FINLEY | bfinley@denverpost.com | The Denver Post
PUBLISHED: May 22, 2017 at 12:53 am | UPDATED: May 22, 2017 at 3:37 pm
Colorado is riding hard on diesel truck drivers who “roll coal,” the politically charged display of power on the roads that has doused other vehicles, such as environmentally friendly Priuses, and pedestrians, including supporters of presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, with sooty black smoke.
Gov. John Hickenlooper this week said he’ll gladly sign into law a bill lawmakers passed that lets police hit offenders with $100 fines.
“Coal rolling is a cruel cut to people with asthma or other respiratory issues,” Hickenlooper said. “We are well to be rid of it.”
Over the past three years, the practice emerged as a way to have fun at the expense of other people, and air quality that is already compromised in parts of Colorado. Diesel pickup truck drivers illegally tweak their engines — tampering with pollution controls and enabling intake of extra fuel — so that by stepping on their accelerator pedals they can blast out spectacularly foul fumes.
New Jersey has outlawed rolling coal.
But Colorado lawmakers, facing anxieties in agricultural areas, wrestled with legislative proposals and twice killed them before passing the bill this month. Police had pushed for a law that could let them crack down. The police occasionally have been targets of the smoke, Fort Collins Police Lt. Craig Horton said.
“We have problems with that display of exhaust, especially on our weekend nights when we have a cruising issue,” Horton said.
Among those embracing the crackdown is Dana TePoel, owner of Lake Arbor Automotive & Truck in Westminster, who for 25 years has conducted state-mandated emissions tests on diesel vehicles for license renewals. Of 52 tests done on diesel vehicles this past week, seven failed.
About a dozen of the trucks that fail emissions tests at his shop each year have engines altered for rolling coal and are usually brought in by drivers new to Colorado.
“We tell ’em they have to fix it,” he said, noting that the modifications can cost thousands of dollars and that coal rollers who fail emissions tests typically must turn back to people who made the illegal modifications to undo them.
TePoel called the $100 fines “a good addition to the system of prevention, emissions testing, that is already in place.”
Trouble hit rolling coal drivers along Colorado’s Front Range when outdoor restaurant patrons and pedestrians complained. Fort Collins police initially tried to use anti-drag racing laws that allow cops to pull over drivers for exhibitions of speed and power, a jailable offense. Police also found it was hard to enforce existing laws prohibiting tampering with pollution control devices.
State Rep. Joann Ginal. D-Fort Collins, was among those smoked. And last fall, when a line of people formed at the New Belgium Brewery to see a campaign event featuring former President Bill Clinton, Ginal said, plume-producing trucks hit them hard.
Hickenlooper’s signature cannot come too soon, she said.
A few days after she and Sen. Don Coram, R-Montrose, secured final passage of the bill, Ginal was driving in Fort Collins behind a tan pickup truck with Texas license plates. The driver smoked her. Ginal said she had a feeling her state lawmaker license plates made her a target.
“They do it to people in Priuses, people on motorcycles, and people just walking down the streets. Some are older people who have chronic respiratory conditions. The smoke makes it worse,” she said.
“It is mean. It is more young people who are doing this,” she said. “They think it is funny.”
It happens statewide, Coram said, citing incidents in Grand Junction and Durango.
A pregnant woman walking with a small child in Durango was hit, said Coram. She called his office to complain. Rolling coal isn’t a matter of political expression, he said.
Ginal introduced legislation in 2016 that died, and tried again this year. Her first bill failed as opponents, including Sen. Jerry Sonnenberg, R-Sterling, a rancher, raised concerns that a crackdown on coal rolling could lead to California-style emission standards for work trucks.
Coram revived the legislation, removing references to harassing behavior — which complicated enforcement — and inserting exceptions for commercial and agricultural vehicles.
Ginal said she expects lawmakers in other states will follow Colorado’s lead.
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/05/22/colorado-rolling-coal-fines/
State lawmakers called practice mean
Diesel pickup truck drivers in Colorado who illegally tweak their engines to blast out black smoke can now be fined $100 for the practice.
By BRUCE FINLEY | bfinley@denverpost.com | The Denver Post
PUBLISHED: May 22, 2017 at 12:53 am | UPDATED: May 22, 2017 at 3:37 pm
Colorado is riding hard on diesel truck drivers who “roll coal,” the politically charged display of power on the roads that has doused other vehicles, such as environmentally friendly Priuses, and pedestrians, including supporters of presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, with sooty black smoke.
Gov. John Hickenlooper this week said he’ll gladly sign into law a bill lawmakers passed that lets police hit offenders with $100 fines.
“Coal rolling is a cruel cut to people with asthma or other respiratory issues,” Hickenlooper said. “We are well to be rid of it.”
Over the past three years, the practice emerged as a way to have fun at the expense of other people, and air quality that is already compromised in parts of Colorado. Diesel pickup truck drivers illegally tweak their engines — tampering with pollution controls and enabling intake of extra fuel — so that by stepping on their accelerator pedals they can blast out spectacularly foul fumes.
New Jersey has outlawed rolling coal.
But Colorado lawmakers, facing anxieties in agricultural areas, wrestled with legislative proposals and twice killed them before passing the bill this month. Police had pushed for a law that could let them crack down. The police occasionally have been targets of the smoke, Fort Collins Police Lt. Craig Horton said.
“We have problems with that display of exhaust, especially on our weekend nights when we have a cruising issue,” Horton said.
Among those embracing the crackdown is Dana TePoel, owner of Lake Arbor Automotive & Truck in Westminster, who for 25 years has conducted state-mandated emissions tests on diesel vehicles for license renewals. Of 52 tests done on diesel vehicles this past week, seven failed.
About a dozen of the trucks that fail emissions tests at his shop each year have engines altered for rolling coal and are usually brought in by drivers new to Colorado.
“We tell ’em they have to fix it,” he said, noting that the modifications can cost thousands of dollars and that coal rollers who fail emissions tests typically must turn back to people who made the illegal modifications to undo them.
TePoel called the $100 fines “a good addition to the system of prevention, emissions testing, that is already in place.”
Trouble hit rolling coal drivers along Colorado’s Front Range when outdoor restaurant patrons and pedestrians complained. Fort Collins police initially tried to use anti-drag racing laws that allow cops to pull over drivers for exhibitions of speed and power, a jailable offense. Police also found it was hard to enforce existing laws prohibiting tampering with pollution control devices.
State Rep. Joann Ginal. D-Fort Collins, was among those smoked. And last fall, when a line of people formed at the New Belgium Brewery to see a campaign event featuring former President Bill Clinton, Ginal said, plume-producing trucks hit them hard.
Hickenlooper’s signature cannot come too soon, she said.
A few days after she and Sen. Don Coram, R-Montrose, secured final passage of the bill, Ginal was driving in Fort Collins behind a tan pickup truck with Texas license plates. The driver smoked her. Ginal said she had a feeling her state lawmaker license plates made her a target.
“They do it to people in Priuses, people on motorcycles, and people just walking down the streets. Some are older people who have chronic respiratory conditions. The smoke makes it worse,” she said.
“It is mean. It is more young people who are doing this,” she said. “They think it is funny.”
It happens statewide, Coram said, citing incidents in Grand Junction and Durango.
A pregnant woman walking with a small child in Durango was hit, said Coram. She called his office to complain. Rolling coal isn’t a matter of political expression, he said.
Ginal introduced legislation in 2016 that died, and tried again this year. Her first bill failed as opponents, including Sen. Jerry Sonnenberg, R-Sterling, a rancher, raised concerns that a crackdown on coal rolling could lead to California-style emission standards for work trucks.
Coram revived the legislation, removing references to harassing behavior — which complicated enforcement — and inserting exceptions for commercial and agricultural vehicles.
Ginal said she expects lawmakers in other states will follow Colorado’s lead.
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/05/22/colorado-rolling-coal-fines/
J Kimmel
Hard Core 4+
Thank goodness for more legislation so they'll finally be able to make these bullies pay.
Or they could just ticket them? Surely there is some sort of existing emissions or safety codes an officer can cite when issuing a ticket for excessive smoke.
Yay for more laws
Or they could just ticket them? Surely there is some sort of existing emissions or safety codes an officer can cite when issuing a ticket for excessive smoke.
Yay for more laws
DaveInDenver
Rising Sun Ham Guru
There exist Federal laws for modifying emissions systems but apparently a cop has to attend a special school to be trained in enforcing those laws. I believe a state trooper could cite you for this but municipal cops aren't going to be qualified (so-to-speak) to enforce them. By making it a state-level vehicle infraction then any cop can cite you. There might be state laws for excessive smoke, not sure about that. But I think the point was to change it from a obscure vehicle emission rule to something more like basically a passive aggressive assault on other drivers and pedestrians.
J Kimmel
Hard Core 4+
They've been ticketing people for a while for this in Montrose. There has to be something they're citing rather than just "gosh I wish I could ticket that rude guy for something "
DaveInDenver
Rising Sun Ham Guru
Maybe defective vehicle, not sure. In the Front Range you can rat on excessively smoking vehicles to a state hotline.
BTW, this article mentions why it's been a difficult thing to enforce.
http://www.coloradoindependent.com/159114/rolling-coal-colorado
rover67
Rising Sun Member
Hopefully we don't get called out for the Jetta. It smokes just a tad LOL.
J Kimmel
Hard Core 4+
Seems like the new law is just as ambiguous to me?
They have to see it for 5 seconds before they can ticket and if this passes then they can just ticket for any smoke at all. That seems to open the doors for more problems. My truck is bone stock but at WOT on a hot day it'll smoke a little. Especially if I'm pulling a trailer. Now a ticket is solely at the discretion of an officer if he wants to ticket me or not.
I'm not advocating for coal rolling idiots by any means but boy it just opens it up for the rest of us to get hit with fines for using a completely stock truck for its intended purpose when the wrong cop sees you. Am I mistaken?
DaveInDenver
Rising Sun Ham Guru
I don't think you're mistaken Kimmel. The one argument I can see in favor might be that it marginalizes the EPA and Federal rules.
LARGEONE
Rising Sun Member
Just register your vehicle as a commercial vehicle and roll coal all you want 
LandBruiser
Lifted
Rolling coal on the street is ghey! It gives diesels a bad name. If a truck or car isn't stock and is tuned to smoke black (not gray) under anything but WOT or when towing up a steep grade it's not tuned right and is wasting fuel- not making power. Lots of black smoke during normal street driving is the sure sign of an incompetent mechanic/"tune" or a absolute moron.
Mine might have a good size puff if I punch it, but cleans up quick! To remedy excessive smoke it needs the fuel turned down, a better sized turbo(s), or a new bigger/clean air filter.
Mine might have a good size puff if I punch it, but cleans up quick! To remedy excessive smoke it needs the fuel turned down, a better sized turbo(s), or a new bigger/clean air filter.
BritKLR
Rising Sun Member
I wouldn't be too worried about ticketing based on a momentary plume of smoke from a stock diesel in comparison to a rolling coal truck display. Night and day difference.