• Jack-it Night: April 2024 RS Meeting Hey Guest: Wed. April 3rd is the next Rising Sun meeting, and you won't want to miss it. We're doing our annual offroad recovery equipment demonstration and trail skills training aka "Jack It Night." Meeting starts at 6:30 p.m. (early) Click here for all the details.

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Notyourmomslx450

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KC Masterpiece

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Its a tough issue. I am all about access for public lands, but at the same time its amazing to see how little respect some people have for their environment.

I am working through my 14er list and its mind boggling how much garbage ends up on those trails even on the less popular peaks. I usually bring an 80L pack with me now and a few trips it has been filled to the brim with garbage by the time I get back to the truck.
 

DaveInDenver

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Its a tough issue. I am all about access for public lands, but at the same time its amazing to see how little respect some people have for their environment.

I am working through my 14er list and its mind boggling how much garbage ends up on those trails even on the less popular peaks. I usually bring an 80L pack with me now and a few trips it has been filled to the brim with garbage by the time I get back to the truck.
Sad isn't it? I'm always picking up garbage while out on trails. Even the Wilderness trails have more junk than might be considered accidentally dropping a Clif bar wrapper corner. Lately what's really foul are dropped masks. Absolutely disgusting.
 

RayRay27

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LARGEONE

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Its really disgusting. I just don't understand how "outdoor enthusiasts" think it is OK to treat a beautiful trail like its a dumpster. People have no respect for anything any more. Sad.
 

DouglasVB

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The garbage issue isn't a new thing by any means, either. When I'm out and about, I'm constantly finding historic artifacts in the form of rubbish piles from hunters camps from the 1950s and earlier, sheep camps from the 1840s and on, cow camps from the 1860s and on, and mining camps. You can roughly date a pile of trash based on what's in it which I guess is kind of neat. We've found some interesting old medicine bottles way back in the backcountry out in California from the 1880s, for instance (dated based on the bottle shape/size/stamping/etc).

At least up until about the 1950s, most things aside from glass, metal, and batteries were more or less biodegradable in a few years. Not so much anymore.
 
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