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Old 12-04-2017, 11:40 AM
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The F800 GS is way up my list of dream bikes, about the right size for a guy who wants to travel in relative highway comfort with camp gear but who has a few other bikes to cover the single track.

I've also been considering a ktm525 as a do all but since you already have one you know what the highway is like with a bike that light all wrapped out in the wind..
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Old 12-04-2017, 05:25 PM
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Prior to my first FJ40 Land Cruiser, I had a Honda TransAlp, which is eerily similar to the new Africa twin (looks almost identical). It was a V twin 600+ adventure bike...very common in Europe, but less so here. When I was in the military in the 90s, I saw them everywhere I traveled internationally.

It was HEAVY for anything other than gravel bumpy roads. If you have to maneuver a ton, they are bulky. They ride nice getting to the trail, but if the trail gets rough, you'll realized the trade-off. I'm sure the newer version (Africa Twin) is lighter with newer tech, so who knows if it would be the same?

So, I would say if you want to go to UT a lot, it might be worth having a heavier roadworthy bike. If you're staying within a few hours of Denver, something lighter might be preferred.
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Old 12-04-2017, 08:00 PM
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I did sell the KLR. Man I loved the thing. It’s the 1984 regular cab mini truck of bikes. Completely unsexy but stupid simple and cheap. It was ok for everything but not really great at anything.

I bet I had less in the whole thing than a set of panniers for a BMW or KTM would cost. The only thing that sucked was Interstate rides but those scared the crap out of me anyway so I took back roads as much as possible. It handled good for basically a big dirt bike.

BTW I still have a dual sport helmet, jacket & pants if you’re looking to augment. Shoei Hornet, Alpinestars something, Klim pants.
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:10 AM
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KLR's are driven to Ak and back pretty often... glad you sold it Dave!
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:30 AM
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KLR's are driven to Ak and back pretty often... glad you sold it Dave!
We once ran into a guy at Grand Canyon doing the Pan-Am on a KLR. Their simplicity means they are in every corner of the world, like old Toyota pickups.
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:31 AM
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I have a 2009 KTM 450-XCW that's plated, totally set up and love it. I also had a KTM 990 DAKAR 30th anniversary edition that was fantastic, but too tall for my short legs. i sold it an bought a 2016 BMW R1200 GSA with the factory low seat option and love it.

I have done Switzerland trail and Bunce School Rd on the GSA. I did not always keep the shiny side up, but I survived and so did the bike.

I love the BMW. For a new ADV rider i would suggest starting with a KLR 650, a KTM 690, or a F800GS. If you want to cover lots of miles on the road as well as in the dirt, the R1200 GSA is fantastic.
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Old 12-06-2017, 01:47 PM
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I forgot you had that 990 Jeff, dang should have borrowed that..

there's no way I'd attempt to replace the 525 EXC, I like riding it way too much and for dirt out the back door there's no better, IMO. But even 5 quick miles on 285 feels like I'm a pebble or gust away from death.. granted some could be tire related. I've wheeled a big heavy land cruiser, and know those limits, I feel I could adjust pretty well to a big heavy bike. But then be comfy back on the tarmac.

Pedal or Moto, I say bikes are like tents. each one is a compromise, each one has its sweet spot, and you can't own just one.
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:28 PM
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Tim,

I relate to the pebble or gust comment. If you want to try the R1200 out we can do that when I am back from Europe the week of the 18th. :-)

Cheers,

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