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Old 10-05-2017, 10:26 AM
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I run both a Cobra 18WX ST2 and a Yaesu Ft-7900R because I drive trails with lots of friends and groups with varying communications. I don't want to be the black sheep in a field of white sheep or vise versa. A properly installed antenna makes a world of difference on CB, but it's still not great. If given a choice, I'm 100% ham and I make sure to express my misery when we have to revert to CB.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:23 PM
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Thanks.... I know Mag mounts don't seem to be the best .... I've looked at some of those quad band radios that have 11M and transmit in AM. I'm a rule follower on things I have no idea about so doing some mod to get CB and stuff just doesn't warrant the effort and risk. It would be nice to get one radio, that has bluetooth that will allow me to have my music cut off in the 80 when someone talks on the radio.
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Old 10-05-2017, 03:41 PM
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If you're talking about the FT-8900 it can't be made to do CB. It will demod AM for air band receive but even completely opened it will only transmit 28-30MHz and 50-54MHz and it's an FM-only modulator.

You can make the VX-7R do wide band transmit but it will only do AM on 40-75.995MHz, which is I think a byproduct of the guts being packaged for aircraft radio. It won't transmit AM on 11m and in my experience its HF and very low band VHF isn't great anyway.

Are you thinking of something else, perhaps there's a Chinese quad band that I'm not familiar with?

The only radios that can be modified to do CB are 10m and 12m HF rigs. I'm not thinking of any quad band VHF/UHF radios that could do it. As for either being a ham radio, neither can demod or modulate SSB, just DSB AM, so they're not terribly useful. Very little of ham phone is done double sideband full carrier, it's almost always single sideband, suppressed carrier.

BTW, the FT-8900 being a 10m radio is cool and all, but to access the FM part of the 10m band you need to be a General.
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:29 PM
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Right... I wasn't talking about the FT-8900, it was this one:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I53VUEY...d=R8I325KS35BM

One of the Chinese quad bands that are being discussed on MUD. I guess they can receive but they can't transmit on AM. This one thread seems to say that on certain channels it can receive and not transmit, but not all channels. Then, a state patrol guy, who I met at Cruise Moab said to get a Stryker and mod it. I don't need all this craziness. I just want to hear what people in the group are saying and be legal.

Maybe, do both right, and not a mag antenna but another antenna far enough away from the Ham antenna so not to interfere with each other?

I feel like I'm at a party and no one wants to talk to me?? :-(
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:52 PM
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Well, any of these options are against the rules and for a ham it's bad practice. I know it seems like it should be simple. I'd just run two radios and spend the least you can on the CB. :-)
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:44 AM
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Right... That's what all ham operators pointed out. It is illegal. So, looks like I'm going to get a good ham and a CB that can make due. I probably should ask in another post your opinion on APRS equipped radios. I'll PM you so I don't hijack this thread.
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Old 10-06-2017, 08:07 AM
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I'm not commenting on the logic of the rules, just that hams should be examples of good operation. I don't like rules either and in this case it's technically feasible with just red tape preventing it. But OTOH a free for all like CB became would be singularly embarrassing and a death knell for amateur radio. The FCC would love to have justification to take our spectrum and being painted as lawbreakers is an ideal way to convince a Congressman to support a bill. Picking your battles is important and in the grand scheme following the FCC mandates isn't a fight worth waging. If the commission wants to be the king of their little domain, fine, it's good to be the king.

BTW, I run a FTM-350 in the truck. Does the job. If I was buying new I'd get a FTM-400. It's probably not the best APRS radio (the Kenwood TM-D710 is), but digital is growing and having it as an option is nice.
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I'd just run two radios and spend the least you can on the CB. :-)
That's pretty much it. Every one of us has gone through the motions on trying to beat the system, but in the end this is where we all wind up.


take a look at the FTM-400. that's my next radio, seems to do all you need and then some for what we do, including APRS.
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That's pretty much it. Every one of us has gone through the motions on trying to beat the system, but in the end this is where we all wind up.


take a look at the FTM-400. that's my next radio, seems to do all you need and then some for what we do, including APRS.
The FTM-400xdr is a rad radio. About ready to get that to put in the new runner. Love the APRS function. Boland and Cardinal sold me on that radio.
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